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Old 08-14-2008, 05:37 PM   #31
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I have a similar story. I am half Caucasian, half Chinese. My grandmother on my mom's side who is from rural Newfoundland saw a black woman on tv, and said " she's pretty......for a black person"

In the back of mind, I always wondered how some of my relatives would have viewed me had we not been related.
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Old 08-15-2008, 08:35 AM   #32
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They said the sponsor forced them, I think all this was a case of bad publicity,those persons knew exactly what was going to happen
Now there's a second photo - the Spanish tennis team from April:

Beijing Olympics: Second Spanish team photographed making 'slit-eyed' gesture - Telegraph

The sponsor was not involved in this one.
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They actually put that on their official web site?

And I think a sponsor "forcing" the basketball team is a lame excuse. They are grown men who are perfectly capable of saying no when they don't think something is morally right.
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I have a similar story. I am half Caucasian, half Chinese. My grandmother on my mom's side who is from rural Newfoundland saw a black woman on tv, and said " she's pretty......for a black person"

In the back of mind, I always wondered how some of my relatives would have viewed me had we not been related.
My grand daughter is Caucasian/Chinese and she is a beautiful little girl. She is grandma's angel!
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They actually put that on their official web site?

And I think a sponsor "forcing" the basketball team is a lame excuse. They are grown men who are perfectly capable of saying no when they don't think something is morally right.
I am beginning to think so too. Especially after the second photo, I have seen.
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I don't think it's offensive. So they were being offensive because they drew attention to an already obvious trait? Please.
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I don't think it's offensive. So they were being offensive because they drew attention to an already obvious trait? Please.

Drew attention? They did more than just "draw attention"...
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I don't think it's offensive. So they were being offensive because they drew attention to an already obvious trait? Please.
You actually have a person on this thread, who very thoughtfully explained to you why that is offensive to him as a person who is part Asian. You still think it's not offensive, though. That's what I don't get.
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I don't get how you think it's offensive. See, there are other cultures in the world besides the very picky and sensitive US culture. Take for instance, the spanish. They clearly don't seem to think it's offensive and I believe they are doing it with the most lighthearted intentions. I also don't see why it's offensive. It's not like no one knew what the asian eye shape is.
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I don't get how you think it's offensive. See, there are other cultures in the world besides the very picky and sensitive US culture. Take for instance, the spanish. They clearly don't seem to think it's offensive and I believe they are doing it with the most lighthearted intentions. I also don't see why it's offensive. It's not like no one knew what the asian eye shape is.

So if an all white team painted themselves in blackface before visiting Africa it wouldn't be offensive?
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As I posted here, when I was a kid, the first time I saw a black person, I was fascinated mostly by their hair (I was 7!). It was really cool to me that the little boy, who ended up being a good friend of mine, let me touch it. I didn't mean any offense and I don't think he took any at all (he was probably too young anyway). When I relayed that story to a black friend in adulthood, she said, that it happened to her often, because her father was an American soldier stationed abroad. And she said she really didn't like it because it felt like she was some kind of exotic animal. Now I'm not saying that I would still do what I did when I was 7, even if I hadn't had the conversation with her, but I'm saying that once she explained it to me, I believed that it was an offensive gesture. Even though it isn't how it was meant to come across, I would most certainly never do it again rather than just repeating the mantra "it's not offensive to ME." Well, who cares if it is or isn't? The point is not to offend the culture that you are commenting on, etc.
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So if an all white team painted themselves in blackface before visiting Africa it wouldn't be offensive?
...because God forbid them pointing out that Africa is known for its people's black skin color.

I know people in the states are sensitive about racial tolerance and all that but in other countries there really aren't that many issues about that. Everyone is pretty much the same so things like that don't phase us as much as it does you guys.
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...because God forbid them pointing out that Africa is known for its people's black skin color.
But it's not just "pointing out" it's making fun. What part of that do you not get?


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I know people in the states are sensitive about racial tolerance and all that but in other countries there really aren't that many issues about that. Everyone is pretty much the same so things like that don't phase us as much as it does you guys.

Have you done a lot of world traveling?
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Right, there's a big difference between "pointing out" ethnoracial differences in a mocking, taunting way and the kind of naive if discomfiting fascination anitram was talking about. I've several times been in situations in India where people who'd never seen a 'real live' white person before crowded around staring openly and jabbing their fingers at my hair and eyes; I'm sure some of them would have a similar reaction to seeing a Chinese person. But that's an entirely different feeling for the person on the receiving end than being obviously ridiculed and sneered at for looking different. You could perhaps say "Tasteless, but no harm done" were these wholly private photos circulated among these team members only, but when you have a potential international audience, don't be surprised if people take it as a form of ridicule of Chinese people, which is exactly what it is.
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