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Old 07-06-2012, 05:05 PM   #496
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Morgan Freeman's opinion should not be discounted.

Most likely he has had the opportunity to stand at a urinal next to the president.
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he is still a communist though, isn't he?
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And Brad Pitt's mother doesn't like Obama either

Reading the online comments about the woman who died an hour after serving Obama in her restaurant=#1 reason to blow up the internet
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Old 07-07-2012, 12:41 PM   #500
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I'd rather vote for the guy who gets campaign money by making $10,000 bets, not an Ivory tower elitist looking for handouts from the rich.
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High inflation is absolutely and completely disastrous for the middle and working classes - it erodes their limited savings, it makes the cost of living more expensive, obvioiusly, and though there is usually a time lag, at a basic level it makes simple household budgeting a task fraught with difficulty.

By contrast, the upper classes - the 1%'ers as we seem to be calling them these days - get by just fine in periods of high inflation. They have the contacts to pursue a diverse range of investment options and much of their net worth is invested in hard assets like property and commodities in the first place. As for the cost of living, it doesn't matter to them.

There is a very good reason why someone like Hitler arose from the ashes of a high inflation economy and there is a very good reason why Zimbabwe today, is in the mess that its in.
First, you move very smoothly from discussing the perils of "high" inflation (in the US, historically ~7%+) to citing "high" inflation for Hitler's rise. The problem is, Weimar hyperinflation at its peak was 29,500%.

That's like equating the space heater in your room with the surface of the sun. Don't look directly at either!!! They'll both incinerate all living life!!!!!

Second, follow this timeline

1923 - German hyperinflation
1930 - strong German deflation, austerity
1933 - Hitler!

There's an inconvenient bump in the "high inflation caused Hitler" narrative that you try to sand off by vaguely describing how Hitler rose "from the ashes", the problem clearly being that deflation is far closer chronologically to Hitler than hyperinflation. If you try and backpedal by saying the moral here is that 1930 Germans were so scarred by the 1923 experience that they made bad choices the opposite way, the moral of this post has now devolved from "high inflation is bad" to "economic mismanagement is bad", which is a staggeringly dull and banal point.
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FWIW*, in American history the working class has benefited from inflation reducing the real value of their nominally-pegged debts (mortgages, medical bills...) making it easier to pay off, while Wall Street and big banks (i.e, creditors) absolutely loathe it for the same reason. As our economy is stalled mainly because it's trying to shake off private sector debt, the benefit of mild inflation would far outweigh the negative effects of higher cost of living. As Canadiens said, inflation is a tool, not a moral issue.

*no pun intended
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First, you move very smoothly from discussing the perils of "high" inflation (in the US, historically ~7%+) to citing "high" inflation for Hitler's rise. The problem is, Weimar hyperinflation at its peak was 29,500%.

That's like equating the space heater in your room with the surface of the sun. Don't look directly at either!!! They'll both incinerate all living life!!!!!

Second, follow this timeline

1923 - German hyperinflation
1930 - strong German deflation, austerity
1933 - Hitler!

There's an inconvenient bump in the "high inflation caused Hitler" narrative that you try to sand off by vaguely describing how Hitler rose "from the ashes", the problem clearly being that deflation is far closer chronologically to Hitler than hyperinflation. If you try and backpedal by saying the moral here is that 1930 Germans were so scarred by the 1923 experience that they made bad choices the opposite way, the moral of this post has now devolved from "high inflation is bad" to "economic mismanagement is bad", which is a staggeringly dull and banal point.
2% is the long term average for the US. It's nothing like 7%, don't know where you're getting that from.

Even if hyperinflation is avoided, if the worst outcome in the coming years is inflation rates of say 7%, then even that is bad for the middle and working classes because even if wages rise, there is always a time lag.
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Morgan Freeman's opinion should not be discounted.

Most likely he has had the opportunity to stand at a urinal next to the president.
Has he prayed with him? And more importantly, did they pray to the right God?
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Morgan Freeman is God.
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Morgan Freeman is Muslim, or at least he was in that Robin Hood movie with Kevin Costner.
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Morgan Freeman is Muslim, or at least he was in that Robin Hood movie with Kevin Costner.
In that case, if he sat down and broke bread and prayed with the president, they are both praying to a false god.
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And Brad Pitt's mother doesn't like Obama either

Reading the online comments about the woman who died an hour after serving Obama in her restaurant=#1 reason to blow up the internet
Oh, lord, I don't even want to know, do I?
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Strassel: Obama's Imperial Presidency - WSJ.com

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Obama's Imperial Presidency
When Congress won't do what he wants, he ignores it and acts anyway.

The ObamaCare litigation is history, with the president's takeover of the health sector deemed constitutional. Now we can focus on the rest of the Obama imperial presidency.

Where, you are wondering, have you recently heard that term? Ah, yes. The "imperial presidency" of George W. Bush was a favorite judgment of the left about our 43rd president's conduct in war, wiretapping and detentions. Yet say this about Mr. Bush: His aggressive reading of executive authority was limited to the area where presidents are at their core power—the commander-in-chief function.

By contrast, presidents are at their weakest in the realm of domestic policy—subject to checks and balances, co-equal to the other branches. Yet this is where Mr. Obama has granted himself unprecedented power. The health law and the 2009 stimulus package were unique examples of Mr. Obama working with Congress. The more "persistent pattern," Matthew Spalding recently wrote on the Heritage Foundation blog, is "disregard for the powers of the legislative branch in favor of administrative decision making without—and often in spite of—congressional action."

Put another way: Mr. Obama proposes, Congress refuses, he does it anyway.

For example, Congress refused to pass Mr. Obama's Dream Act, which would provide a path to citizenship for some not here legally. So Mr. Obama passed it himself with an executive order that directs officers to no longer deport certain illegal immigrants. This may be good or humane policy, yet there is no reading of "prosecutorial discretion" that allows for blanket immunity for entire classes of offenders.

Mr. Obama disagrees with federal law, which criminalizes the use of medical marijuana. Congress has not repealed the law. No matter. The president instructs his Justice Department not to prosecute transgressors. He disapproves of the federal Defense of Marriage Act, yet rather than get Congress to repeal it, he stops defending it in court. He dislikes provisions of the federal No Child Left Behind Act, so he asked Congress for fixes. That effort failed, so now his Education Department issues waivers that are patently inconsistent with the statute.

Similarly, when Mr. Obama wants a new program and Congress won't give it to him, he creates it regardless. Congress, including Democrats, wouldn't pass his cap-and-trade legislation. His Environmental Protection Agency is now instituting it via a broad reading of the Clean Air Act. Congress, again including members of his own party, wouldn't pass his "card-check" legislation eliminating secret ballots in union elections. So he stacked the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) with appointees who pushed through a "quickie" election law to accomplish much the same. Congress wouldn't pass "net neutrality" Internet regulations, so Mr. Obama's Federal Communications Commission did it unilaterally.

In January, when the Senate refused to confirm Mr. Obama's new picks for the NLRB, he proclaimed the Senate to be in "recess" and appointed the members anyway, making a mockery of that chamber's advice-and-consent role. In June, he expanded the definition of "executive privilege" to deny House Republicans documents for their probe into the botched Fast and Furious drug-war operation, making a mockery of Congress's oversight responsibilities.

This president's imperial pretensions extend into the brute force the executive branch has exercised over the private sector. The auto bailouts turned contract law on its head, as the White House subordinated bondholders' rights to those of its union allies. After the 2010 Deepwater Horizon oil spill, the Justice Department leaked that it had opened a criminal probe at exactly the time the Obama White House was demanding BP suspend its dividend and cough up billions for an extralegal claims fund. BP paid. Who wouldn't?

And it has been much the same in his dealings with the states. Don't like Arizona's plans to check immigration status? Sue. Don't like state efforts to clean up their voter rolls? Invoke the Voting Rights Act. Don't like state authority over fracking? Elbow in with new and imagined federal authority, via federal water or land laws.

In so many situations, Mr. Obama's stated rationale for action has been the same: We tried working with Congress but it didn't pan out—so we did what we had to do. This is not only admission that the president has subverted the legislative branch, but a revealing insight into Mr. Obama's view of his own importance and authority.

There is a rich vein to mine here for GOP nominee Mitt Romney. Americans have a sober respect for a balance of power, so much so that they elected a Republican House in 2010 to stop the Obama agenda. The president's response? Go around Congress and disregard the constitutional rule of law. What makes this executive overreach doubly unsavory is that it's often pure political payoff to special interests or voter groups.

Mr. Obama came to office promising to deliver a new kind of politics. He did—his own, unilateral governance.
Imperial is so harsh, let's just call Barack Obama our first post-constitutional president.
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Imperial is so harsh, let's just call Barack Obama our first post-constitutional president.
Executive Order has been an increasingly-effective (and abused) tool for bypassing the two other branches since the 1950s.

For someone who enjoys U.S. History quotes for a good old anti-2012 Democratic Party circlejerk so often, you sure love to ignore it when it might undermine your point.
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