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Old 12-04-2004, 06:01 PM   #1
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no one is morally responsible

Ok folks here's the basic argument:
1) you do what you do because of you are
2) in order to be morally responsible for what you do, you must be responsible for who you are
3) in order to be responsible for who you are, you must have intentionally brought who you are about
4) you cannot intentionally bring about yourself
thus,
we are not morally responsible
....any thoughts?
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Old 12-04-2004, 06:03 PM   #2
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This is not helping my migrane.
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Old 12-04-2004, 06:03 PM   #3
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Sounds like bullshit to me.

I think we are each responsible for what we choose to do.
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This is not helping my migrane.
Are you still getting those?
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Are you still getting those?
Not as bad as two years ago.....but this week....four of the last five days.
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I think everyone, universally, has an innate sense of right and wrong. It's part of what makes us human....
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what stars said. people have consciences no matter how they are brought up. whether or not they listen to it is entirely different.
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Re: no one is morally responsible

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....any thoughts?
My thought is that it is grasping at straws in a roundabout way in an attempt to gain a simple cop out for one's actions. However, the logic used is flawed.
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Re: no one is morally responsible

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2) in order to be morally responsible for what you do, you must be responsible for who you are
Maybe I'm missing something, but wtf? What kind of conclusion is that?
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What stars said will do for me as well.
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I agree with stars as well.
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Old 12-05-2004, 11:25 AM   #13
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I dunno if I fully agree with Stars.s viewpoint. All humans are imperfect and will naturally lean towards what is wrong. We have to train ourselves on a daily basis to lean towards the right way. But what if there is no one or nothing there to point you to what is right? Or what if that one or thing is pointing you in a f**cked up direction and you head that way?

True we all have consciences, but we can either feed it good or corrupt things. We have to train or heart/conscience to do what is right. My 1.5 worth of cents.

(Tell you something, you'll never see this type of thread on the Britney Spear's website)
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We all have a conscience. Aren't pedophiles responsible for their doings?
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Old 12-05-2004, 01:03 PM   #15
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I believe we are all responsible for our actions. Some of us have warped and misguided (pedophiler is a good example) consciences though.
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