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Old 09-02-2005, 07:33 PM   #226
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Ugh, Hurricanes!

Speaking of all this hurricane business, has anyone heard of U2 doing anything relief effort with regards to Katrina? Seems if they can jump on to do all the other stuff they do and have done, something here seems appropriate as well. I dunno, just a thought from a schmo in Arizona.

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I have never seen the US media so confrontational with the bullshit coming out of the politicians mouths until now. Good for them, people are sick and tired of politicians and bureaucrats dodging questions and spinning their answers. .
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Speaking of all this hurricane business, has anyone heard of U2 doing anything relief effort with regards to Katrina? Seems if they can jump on to do all the other stuff they do and have done, something here seems appropriate as well. I dunno, just a thought from a schmo in Arizona.

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I just received this e-mail from the One campaign:

"Dear Friend:

In the wake of the destruction brought on by Hurricane Katrina, hundreds of thousands of Americans are facing an uncertain and challenging future.

We've all watched together as increasingly dire reports have come out of the hardest hit areas of Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama, and right now our nation is trying to find its footing as it responds to one of the worst disasters that we've ever faced.

We all see the pictures on TV. Right now, they need water, food, clothing, shelter and medical attention, and soon they'll begin the long process of putting their lives back together... hospitals, sewers, schools...all the things that we take for granted every day.

As members of ONE, we must believe that Americans can't help people around the world unless we also take care of urgent needs at home.

You can visit the ONE.ORG blog to find a list of ONE partners and other groups working right now to help those in most need.

In the same way that our fight against poverty is both urgent and diligent, we now have a new challenge with the same rules, to help stop people from dying today and help rebuild their infrastructure for tomorrow.

In July, you answered the call of the poorest countries in the world, and now perhaps we can help you find a way to participate at this important time. Please visit the ONE.ORG blog and take action today.

Thank you,


George Clooney


P.S. You can also help by taking part in the "ReAct Now: Music & Relief" benefit concert that will air on MTV, VH1 and CMT, planned for Sept. 10th at 8pm ET/7pm CT. Please visit www.think.mtv.com for up to date information."
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Speaking of all this hurricane business, has anyone heard of U2 doing anything relief effort with regards to Katrina? Seems if they can jump on to do all the other stuff they do and have done, something here seems appropriate as well. I dunno, just a thought from a schmo in Arizona.

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Well, U2 haven't done anything even remotely public lately, so I'm not shocked nothing's been said.

I'm sure it'll come up in concert once the third leg begins, though.
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Old 09-02-2005, 08:05 PM   #230
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Thanks for the info Kelly
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A few people have mentioned this but I have failed because of all my bitchin!

Anyway, thanks to all the soldiers, volunteers, helicopter pilots, police especially the ones in New Orleans who didn't desert, physicians, nurses, and everyone down on the coast who are doing their best to help the people down there despite the confusion in dispatching assistance. And at least now, finally, there is some signs of help at a grand scale. Although, more is still needed until everyone is safe. Then another problem begins regarding the relocation of hundreds of thousands of people who have lost everything. Hopefully, that will be more thought out and planned more efficiently.
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A few people have mentioned this but I have failed because of all my bitchin!

Anyway, thanks to all the soldiers, volunteers, helicopter pilots, police especially the ones in New Orleans who didn't desert, physicians, nurses, and everyone down on the coast who are doing their best to help the people down there despite the confusion in dispatching assistance.
Amen. Way to go, guys-you are all a definition of a hero .

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And at least now, finally, there is some signs of help at a grand scale.
That's great news .

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Although, more is still needed until everyone is safe. Then another problem begins regarding the relocation of hundreds of thousands of people who have lost everything. Hopefully, that will be more thought out and planned more efficiently.
*Nods* Yes. That would be absolutely wonderful.

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Old 09-02-2005, 09:54 PM   #233
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Maybe this is a stupid question and idea but I was wondering about the U.S. aircraft carriers.. I mean if all NO is flooded and a carrier located in the Gulf would just go near there and stop near NO so they can take rescue boats and quickly get the people out of the Superdome and onto the carrier where some doctors are waiting? Or is that just a stupid idea because it wouldn´t work for a couple of reasons -but why shouldnt it have worked this way, just to get a couple of thousands out quick and easy?

If I was the commander of an aircraft carrierl that´s what I would have asked the Navy officials at the Pentagon or wherever: hey guys, you know we have this emergency, can I go there to rescue our people?

also it´s a little latenow, that should have been done Tuesday,..
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Aren't they all somewhere else in the world right now? I have no idea but I thought of that initially too but figured they were all over in the Middle East region.
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Aren't they all somewhere else in the world right now? I have no idea but I thought of that initially too but figured they were all over in the Middle East region.

I don´t think so.. I think two are always located around the Middle East (one in the red sea, one around Kuwait, probably one near Turkey/ Mediterranean) but the U.S. has six or seven, and sometimes in summer they go down from Chesapeake to the Gulf to test new weapons etc.
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I don´t think so.. I think two are always located around the Middle East (one in the red sea, one around Kuwait, probably one near Turkey/ Mediterranean) but the U.S. has six or seven, and sometimes in summer they go down from Chesapeake to the Gulf to test new weapons etc.

Well, in that case, this is an excellent question.
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http://www.ne.jp/asahi/gonavy/atsugi/gonavy604.html

I don´t know how official this source is, but if it is, the last known locations are as follows:

WestLant = West Atlantic, from which it would probably be possible to get near NO in few days.
WestPac = West Pacific, means far off

CV-63 Kitty Hawk:
Aug.23 2005,
departed Yokosuka to evade Typhoon Mawar
Aug.23-Aug.26 2005, WestPac
Aug.27 2005, returned to Yokosuka

CVN-65 Enterprise
Aug.3-Aug.8 2005, WestLant
-------[ Schedule ]-------------------------
is scheduled to be in Northrop Grumman Newport News
until mid-summer of 2005

CV-67 John F. Kennedy
Jun.6 2005, WestLant
Jun.7, 2005, returned to Mayport
Jul.26-Jul.31 2005,
carrier qualifications in the WestLant

CVN-68 Nimitz
Aug.9-Aug.14 2005, anchored at the Kingdom of Bahrain
Aug.15-Aug.30 2005, Persian Gulf

CVN-69 Dwight D. Eisenhower
May13-May27 2005, WestLant
Jun.1-Jun.16 2005, WestLant

CVN-70 Carl Vinson
Jul.31 2005,
returned to Norfolk
for a RCOH (Refueling and Complex Overhaul)
at the Northrop Grumman Newport News Ship Yard

CVN-71 Theodore Roosevelt
Jul.3-Jul.7 2005, Ft. Lauderdale, FL.
Jul.8-Jul.29 2005,
JTFEX (Joint Task Force Exercise)
in the WestLant
Jul.30 2005, returned to Norfolk

CVN-72 Abraham Lincoln
Jun.20-Jun.22 2005,
EastPac,
readiness training
in support of Fleet Response Plan
Jul.14 2005, EastPac

CVN-73 George Washington - not assigned
Jan.28 2005,
arrived at the Newport News shipyard
for a 10-and-a-half month DPIA
Mar.29 2005,
completed refurbishing a living compartment

CVN-74 John C. Stennis- not assigned
Jan.19 2005,
DPIA (Dry-Docked Planned Incremental Availability)
at the Puget Sound Naval Shipyard in Bremerton
-------[ Schedule ]-------------------------
Dec.2005, DPIA is expected to be completed

CVN-75 Harry S. Truman
Jul.12-Jul.20 2005,
carrier qualifications and operations
in the WestLant
and is also participating in a JTFEX with CVN-71
Jul.27-Aug.5 2005, WestLant

CVN-76 Ronald Reagan
Aug.8-Aug.18 2005,
carrier qualifications
for Fleet Replacement Squadrons in the EastPac
Aug.19-Aug.22 2005, Santa Barbara, CA.
Aug.23-Aug.24 2005, EastPac
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Update: I just found this article and it seems the Truman is gonna be there on Sept. 4th. Ok it started on Sept 1st, which is probably two days late, but a carrier like that needs its time to get supplies on board, take fuel etc. so that is understandable.

I just wonder stuff like if they send so much water and food there, why not take some people out of the Superdome? Guys, you will be there tomorrow - and we still have reports of thousands of people waiting there - think about it.

Truman En Route to U.S. Gulf Coast in Support of Hurricane Relief Operations
Story Number: NNS050902-28
Release Date: 9/2/2005 6:43:00 PM

http://www.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=19900

From USS Harry S. Truman Public Affairs

USS HARRY S. TRUMAN, At Sea (NNS) -- USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75) departed its homeport of Norfolk, Va., Sept. 1 in support of the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) and state disaster relief operations following the massive devastation left in the wake of Hurricane Katrina.

The ongoing hurricane relief operations are an intensive humanitarian effort that involves many federal agencies, Department of Defense assets and all military branches. Truman expects to be on station off the U.S. Gulf Coast by Sept. 4.

Truman will serve as a command and control platform for hurricane relief operations, as well as provide a rotary wing forward operating sea base, provide carrier onboard delivery (COD) service and provide additional medical support, in addition to supporting the refueling of dozens of military aircraft flying in the area.

“We will be a forward floating support base, running relief articles into any area required. We will also serve as a refueling point for the large number of Navy and Army helicopters operating in the area,” said Truman Commanding Officer Capt. James P. Gigliotti.

“We are unsure of how many helos will come aboard,” said Truman’s Air Boss, Cmdr. Doug Carsten, “but it will probably be between 30 and 40. We talked with our counterparts on the USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72), who helped in a similar mission during the tsunami relief. They were doing up to 90 missions a day. I think we can match that on board Truman.”

Truman’s Supply Officer, Cmdr. John Palmer, said the ship brings with it 20,000 bottles of water, more than 17,000 Meals Ready-to-Eat (MRE), 9,000 frozen meals and is awaiting 50,000 empty liquid containers. The jugs will be filled with fresh water made aboard Truman.

Truman, responding to U.S. Fleet Forces Command tasking, put to sea with only 48 hours' notice, after loading tons of supplies. Having returned from a six-month deployment in April, Truman's crew is skilled at helping others, having participated in various community relations (COMREL) projects in foreign countries.

“I want to get off the ship and help out,” said Aviation Ordnanceman Airman Dantrell Chaplin, from Beaufort, S.C. “I’ll pass out water, food...just help the people.”

Gigliotti added that the crew has always been told to be ready on short notice, assuring, “the crew is ready; they’ve been briefed, and they want to help out. Truman and other [Navy] assets are on their way to help.”

Truman will join a growing number of U.S. Navy ships and units operating in, or en route to, the U.S. Gulf Coast.
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to the USS Harry S. Truman.

Now once they get the people out of the Gulf Coast region which could still take a while. The federal authorities have to have a support system for all the states in the surrounding region especially Texas which rocks to assist with the care and relocation of the hundreds of thousands of people who are without homes or jobs. They have to reunite families and find the dead victims. They also have to get the electricity back on line which could take weeks or months. They have to get the oil rigs and refineries back to normal production levels. They have to drain New Orleans of the water and examine and fortify the remaining levees to minimize the chances of this kind of thing happening in the near future. They also have to clean up the entire Gulf Coast region, tear down condemned buildings, examine the water sources to ensure they are still safe, and eventually rebuild the communities which were destroyed in the Gulf Coast region. Whew! Hopefully, there are teams of experts, who know nothing about search and rescue, already brainstorming on methods of achieving these enormous goals. Hopefully.
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I have just phoned and emailed FEMA to explain the idea of getting hurricane victims on the aircraft carrier. I mean, that´s a floating city with 4.5 acres of flight deck.
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