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Old 03-22-2010, 12:13 AM   #391
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The amount of absolute butthurt I've witnessed via my Facebook friends' status updates has been astounding. You'd think Obama just... killed a baby.
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my premiums have been going up an average of 33% a year without any government help.

thankfully, i had my accident after i became a paying member of BCBS, otherwise, i might be uninsurable.
that is just it
the Ins Companies can do what ever they want, and have been
people that argue for them in 2010? I don't get it.

But, with a National Health Bill people will expect congress to have some control.
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he can multitask.
Multitasking and laser-like focus are oxymorons.

Multitasking is being president and commander-in-chief plus running the banks, home mortgage companies and car companies ingested by the government since Obama's inauguration. To which we can soon add the student loan program and our nation's health care system.
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No Olympics for Chicago. No climate treaty.

Has he lowered the sea levels yet? How about created anything other than government jobs?
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The amount of absolute butthurt I've witnessed via my Facebook friends' status updates has been astounding. You'd think Obama just... killed a baby.
Start de-friending, or at least start feed blocking.

That's what I'd do to you, frankly. Wait.
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I've watched most of this debate on C-Span today.

There are a couple of real fringe, whack jobs in Congress. pandering to the paranoid masses out there.
I guess they were not done, yet.


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Reporters in the House chamber said the “baby killer” shout seemed to come from a group of lawmakers that included Rep. John Campbell (R-Calif.), but he said it wasn’t him. “I don't think it’s appropriate at all," Campbell told POLITICO.

Campbell said the voice came from the floor – from someone who was behind him and to the left. "Some people know who it is but won't say,” he added.

Later, he told reporters that he thought the voice belonged to one of the Texas Republicans seated behind him. "The people who know won't give it up," he told reporters. "I'm not casting dispersions on that state."

Texas Republican Rep. Joe Barton said he heard the shout but wouldn't say who was responsible.

"I can make a guess," Barton told reporters.

House Appropriations Committee Chairman David Obey (D-Wis.), who was in the chair at the time, said he saw a Republican lawmaker shout out “baby killer” – but he wouldn’t say who it was, either.

"I think members have a right to make an idiot of themselves once without being exposed," he said.

House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D-Mass.), who was subjected to an anti-gay epithet from a protestor Saturday, said the "baby killer" shout showed the close alignment between the GOP and some of its most extreme allies in the health care fight.

"The difference between some of the Republicans and some of their raucous followers appears to be, unfortunately, diminishing," Frank said. "Obviously, that's not the whole party, but there's a disturbing tendency to forget about civility."


Read more: Bart Stupak called 'baby killer' on House floor - Jake Sherman and Meredith Shiner - POLITICO.com
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someone called it soviet style heathcare.

question for the historians, because i seriously don't know. at what point was everyone in the soviet union provided government supported healthcare?
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someone called it soviet style heathcare.

question for the historians, because i seriously don't know. at what point was everyone in the soviet union provided government supported healthcare?
That was the whole point of socialism - I imagine there were instances where some people didn't get covered, but the one of the concepts of the Soviet Union was health care for all.

However, there were no insurance companies, no private hospitals, just the state, which is a huge difference.

Many European countries (including my own) has a government-owned, government-run health care system, with a private option for those who want it (and can afford it). If "Obamacare" is "Soviet style" then I guess I'm living in North Korea...

Just want to share my enthusiasm for this bill, even though I live in Denmark and this has nothing to do with me, I genuinely believe that all Americans will benefit from this legislation. A big congratulations to Obama and Pelosi and every U.S. citizen from me.
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No Olympics for Chicago. No climate treaty.
And I'll be quick to note that unless you're joking, I don't think anything could have gotten the Olympics to Chicago, and if Obama couldn't push through a climate treaty, I don't think anyone could.

(Or maybe Copenhagen and President Obama just don't mix very well.)
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That was the whole point of socialism - I imagine there were instances where some people didn't get covered, but the one of the concepts of the Soviet Union was health care for all.

However, there were no insurance companies, no private hospitals, just the state, which is a huge difference.

Many European countries (including my own) has a government-owned, government-run health care system, with a private option for those who want it (and can afford it). If "Obamacare" is "Soviet style" then I guess I'm living in North Korea...
i knew what the point of socialism was i've just never studied the necessary history to know if the slightly busted ass soviet union ever pulled it together. your second paragraph addresses my question perfectly, thanks

and it sounds like the healthcare system in my country. the public option isn't ideal, but it's a damn sight better than being bankrupted should i get cancer through no fault of my own.
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So, have the gays started rounding up the Christians yet? Isn't that what was supposed to happen the minute this thing passed?
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So, have the gays started rounding up the Christians yet? Isn't that what was supposed to happen the minute this thing passed?
*sigh*

Mark this down as one reason FYM is dead to me.
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Just want to share my enthusiasm for this bill, even though I live in Denmark and this has nothing to do with me, I genuinely believe that all Americans will benefit from this legislation. A big congratulations to Obama and Pelosi and every U.S. citizen from me.
Same here (though I don't live in Denmark).
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Start de-friending, or at least start feed blocking.

That's what I'd do to you, frankly. Wait.
I can't defriend my cousins. But I can ignore their friends. Especially the two that have made gun references. I can't stand Pelosi either, but mentioning that a .45 is the first thought that comes to your head when you see her face is just a tad deranged.
Same with "I'm gonna buy my 9 millimeter insurance policy this weekend."

Who are you gonna shoot? Doctors? IDGI.
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*sigh*

Mark this down as one reason FYM is dead to me.
Because of the humor?
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Because for the second time in 10 years the Democrats have had their way with something.
The drama, the drama!
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