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Old 08-27-2008, 03:26 PM   #16
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I wonder how she came about the book in the first place?
According to the Boston Globe, "she first heard of the book from the American Life League, an anti-abortion group. She felt compelled to act after she checked out the book and found it to be 'pornographic' and worse than she originally feared."
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Ahhh, thanks.
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Perhaps, if these anti-abortion activists weren't so afraid of young people being smart about sex, less situations would arise that might give cause to abortions.
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There is nothing amoral or abnormal about discussing human sexuality.
Is there any age limit that it is not appropriate to discuss sexual matters with?

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She has serious hang ups and seems like she may need some kind of psychiatric help. I feel sorry for her.

50 years ago, 95% of the population would have agreed with her. Would you have also diagnosed them as requiring psychiatric help?
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When my mom wanted to have the talk she borrowed two books from the library to help her explain it to me. We went through the pics, diagrams etc. (our neighbour was having twins and I had a lot of questions about TWO!! babies). They were so helpful she actually asked to buy them from the library, was allowed, as they were going to get newer copies, and then we just had them around the house in case I had more questions and she wasn't there. Most of my friends parents didn't have the talk with them, so a lot of times when my parents weren't home, my friends would come over and we'd go through the books...I think half the kids on my street learned "where did I come from" from those books because their parents wouldn't discuss.

In short, I don't think getting some books to help the conversation along is a bad thing like you seem to be implying. I think my mom did a great job, with the resources and hostile environment to educating your kids about sex she was working against at the time.
Your mum sounds great. Yay for your mum!
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Is there any age limit that it is not appropriate to discuss sexual matters with?
Of course. I think you can only discuss sex in an age-appropriate way if you actually want the children to understand you and to get whatever message you are trying to project. It's a bit silly to even ask the question.
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In the photo, it says right on the cover of the book, "For age 10 and up."
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I don't mind that she's offended by the book -- she can be offended all she wants. My problem with her is that she doesn't want to allow others the same opportunity to be offended (or not).
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In short, I don't think getting some books to help the conversation along is a bad thing like you seem to be implying. I think my mom did a great job, with the resources and hostile environment to educating your kids about sex she was working against at the time.

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Relying on a "teen magazine" as a daughter's primary sex ed teaching tool (what are sons supposed to read?) would be equally pathetic IMO.
I should've explained what kind of talk I had growing up.

My mom came of age in the 1950s and had me at a late age. Therefore she is very conservative when it comes to sex. When she taught me about puberty and where babies come from, she wasn't afraid about that. What she was afraid of was me finding out from other people. In junior high, when sex-ed came around, she pulled me from the class. I was the laughingstock of my class when it was that time of week to discuss sex ed, because I had to go hang out in the library while my classmates got to hear about the birds and the bees (and no, the library did not have books on sex-ed either). At the time, my mom said she didn't want me to learn about sex-ed with boys in the class. But now I realize she was afraid I would learn something she didn't want me to learn. What, I don't know.

My mom thought I was too young to learn about sex itself, but the problem was, other kids knew things I didn't know. For example, in sixth grade, I wasn't quite sure what a virgin was. To make it short, I had a lot of mortifying moments that year.

Luckily, I had two older sisters who taught me about sex. It was they who subscribed me to Seventeen so I could learn more. At the time, my mom almost cancelled the subscription because she thought I was too young for the magazine. But that is where I learned what masturbation was and what oral sex was, and so on. So learning from a magazine is not pathetic.

Because of my experience, I get annoyed when I hear about parents thinking teaching sex is "immoral" or something. I'm all for sex-ed in school, and most importantly, I am all for parents being frank about sex.
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I've worked in the public library system for almost ten years and I actually deal with this attitude all the time. The sex-ed books, the unfiltered internet, the books on the history of Las Vegas with topless showgirls in them, the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue; it's always something offending someone and someone complaining that something should be done about it. For the life of me I cannot figure out why these people think they have the right to decide what other people can look at.
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I also got a book. They put it on the table, I looked at the picture, I was asked if I had questions, I said I did not, and that was "the talk".
you should have gone to snow's house.
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I've worked in the public library system for almost ten years and I actually deal with this attitude all the time. The sex-ed books, the unfiltered internet, the books on the history of Las Vegas with topless showgirls in them, the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue; it's always something offending someone and someone complaining that something should be done about it. For the life of me I cannot figure out why these people think they have the right to decide what other people can look at.
Yes.
Why people think a library should have restricted information is beyond me.
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50 years ago, 95% of the population would have agreed with her. Would you have also diagnosed them as requiring psychiatric help?
Fifty years ago, 95% of the population probably referred to female menstruation as "The Curse" too.

Just because a particular belief is popular doesn't mean it is any less neurotic.
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Just because a particular belief is popular doesn't mean it is any less neurotic.
That is true, but logically there must also be popular particular beliefs of our current time period that are neurotic.
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That is true, but logically there must also be popular particular beliefs of our current time period that are neurotic.
Of course there are. Ever see the number of "Defense of Marriage" amendments that have passed in the U.S.?
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