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Rock n' Roll Doggie
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Illegal Aliens Murder 12 Americans Daily
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http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intel...le.jsp?sid=415
__________________From your article, "Though no federal statistics are kept on murders or any other crimes committed by illegal aliens, a number of groups have produced estimates based on data collected from prisons, news reports and independent research. " Doesn't appear to be an objective source for the statistics provided. We'd need to track it back before I give it any validity. Research looks a little shoddy and disingenuous. Give me better stats.
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Although it isn't really funny, this bit is so true I couldn't help but laugh:
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Appears this is the GAO study referenced in AEON's quoted article.
http://www.gao.gov/htext/d05337r.html Violent Crimes Institute of Atlantic article referenced: http://www.drdsk.com/articles.html#Illegals This is the findings of one researcher. It does not appear to be a widely studied issue.
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Wow! It looks like I moved out of the US and got away from all of those foreigners just in time!
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Quoting from the second link in my above postL
"Based on population numbers of 12,000,000 illegal immigrants and the fact that young males make up more of this population than the general U.S. population, sex offenders in the illegal immigrant group make up a higher percentage. When examining ICE reports and public records, it is consistent to find sex offenders comprising 2% of illegals apprehended. Based on this 2% figure, which is conservative, there are approximately 240,000 illegal immigrant sex offenders in the United States." She's projecting these figures on a percentage of "apprehended" illegals, not the illegal population as a whole. I don't know the numbers. Point is nobody knows the numbers. And based on these stats in this article, we still don't know the numbers. **Edited due to serious early morning mathematical error on my part which would have made me look completely like a dumbass and absolutely discredited any point I was making. ![]()
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How many illegal aliens are Americans murdering daily?
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I guess this is the "source" of FOX News' daily histrionic tirades about illegal immigrants killing Americans.
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That's kind of what I figured, Melon. Thanks for checking this out.
I'd be generally suspicious of any study trying to quantify the effects of illegal aliens, whether positive or negative, simply because the very nature of illegals makes that type of research difficult. So when I read something about how illegals drain the economy by $X/day, or something like illegals actually benefit the economy by $X/day, I'm skeptical. But since we're on the topic, comparing the victims of criminal illegals to war dead seems like apples and oranges. A better comparison would be the number of war dead in Iraq & Afghanistan vs. the number of deaths as a result of domestic terrorist activity. That's not to say that it's OK that people are victims crimes committed by illegals; it's not. But trying to separate them out is a dangerous thing. It's interesting that many of the same folks who oppose hate crime laws because they supposedly minimize the gravity of "non-hate" crimes are willing to single out & elevate crimes committed by illegals, as if to say it's bad if you're murdered, but if you're murdered by an illegal it's worse. Ironic.
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The fact that a statistic like this is measured and given any true value is ludicrous. A muderer is a murderer regardless if they snuck over here from a small Mexican town, or were born and raised in a good ol', homegrown Texas family. One doesn't take the life of another because he/she has a first language other than English; one murders because he or she has hatred, and anger in their heart. (killings in self-defense or whatnot not included)
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