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Old 11-12-2004, 09:26 AM   #1
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Good point.

If we weren't ready for Teresa as a first lady, how will we be ready for Hillary?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6463987/site/newsweek/
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Old 11-12-2004, 09:35 AM   #2
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Oh, please.

Hillary can run just fine because (1) she will be the candidate, not the candidate's spouse, and (2) she will be in a position to conduct more of a two-way dialogue.

Teresa is not a victim here.
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Hillary scares me............
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I don't see why every other Dem from Crabapple Cove, Maine to Seattle to San Diego to Miami is all over Hillary.

I really don't think she'd be an overly great President from what I've seen of her.

Here are some of the possible touted Democratic candidates for 2008:
Hillary Clinton
John Edwards
John Kerry
Russ Feingold
Bill Richardson
Charles Schumer
Jesse Jackson
Ed Rendell
Tom Vilsack
Blanche Lincoln
Harold Ford Jr.

Not a very positive-looking list. I expect a)either a Hillary run in 2008, with another VERY close election, or b)the Dems run some flunky for 2008, more or less conceding to the Repubs those 4 years, grooming Obama or Hillary for a 2012 run.
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I like Hillary, but she is just too polarizing a figure to run in '08.
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I like Hillary, but she is just too polarizing a figure to run in '08.
My sentiments exactly. We need someone who is more of a "unifier". It might be someone who is unknown right now, but some creative leadership might bring some new cream to the top, depending on the circumstances. Let's just say, for the sake of argument, that Iraq screws up big time, it doesn't go well. That set of circumstances will set up a particular scenario which will determine who does well and who doesn't. Conversely if Iraq more or less works out as best it can this scenario will have a different set of consequences, obviously.
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Hillary doesn't have an ice cube's chance in hell of winning southern votes.
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well technicaly according to dante the 9th circle of hell is covered in ice, so the ice cube could survive there...









ok i'll shup up now
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Hillary doesn't have an ice cube's chance in hell of winning southern votes.
Absolutely not. Stick any Southerner in the primaries against Hillary and she's toast after Super Tuesday, and that Southern opponent is the damn nominee.
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What the Democrats need is someone from the South as a candidate to run, and hope that they will carry some the southern states.
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I detest the idea of just conceding 2008 and 'grooming' someone for 2012. If the DNC cannot come up with ONE good candidate in the next four years, then we(liberals and democrats) are in worse shape than I thought.
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I detest the idea of just conceding 2008 and 'grooming' someone for 2012. If the DNC cannot come up with ONE good candidate in the next four years, then we(liberals and democrats) are in worse shape than I thought.
And who can you think of that could possibly overcome the Christian right that would be prepared for a run in 2008?
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What the Democrats need is someone from the South as a candidate to run, and hope that they will carry some the southern states.
In my book they *must* do this. If they can do what Clinton was able to do, win Arkansas, Tennessee, Louisiana and Florida (which really is only geographically a Southern state; it's not "culturally" the South, and I should know as I partially grew up there and knew more people from Ohio and New York than other Southern states) then they have a shot.
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And who can you think of that could possibly overcome the Christian right that would be prepared for a run in 2008?
Overcome or woo?
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You forgot Al Sharpton.
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