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Old 06-19-2004, 05:39 PM   #61
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I didn't think about the threats from terrorists to the families of people who denounce them, but that may be true. There are already jitters in Turkey over some bombings in Istanbul the other day, just ahead of the NATO meeting. The bombings didn't kill anyone, just mildly wounding a person. The bombs were the type the Turks are used to, bombs that make more noise than anything else, rather than the lethal ones associated with suicide bombers.
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Old 06-19-2004, 07:45 PM   #62
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I'm not changing the thread title. I figure no one has killed anyone over it yet, and I'm surprised, in fact, at how well the discussion has stayed on track. I'm sure no one believes that ALL Muslims think Allah was all tickled over this beheading; in fact, I am SURE that we ALL know that the VAST MAJORITY of Muslims, here and elsewhere, were very grossed out and sad.

That said, BVS already put what I was going to say very well. The one thing we can all agree on is that it's really cruel and disgusting and wrong to behead someone. Let's start from there and forget the whole "thread title" discussion.

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Old 06-19-2004, 08:42 PM   #63
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Just for clarification, I never suggested that the thread title be changed....I merely said that it bothers me a bit. To change it would be censorship and I would never speak out in favor of that.
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Just for clarification, I never suggested that the thread title be changed....I merely said that it bothers me a bit. To change it would be censorship and I would never speak out in favor of that.
Just for the record, I didn't suggest the thread title should be changed either. I said I disagreed with it, but I never suggested a moderator should change it.
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Old 06-20-2004, 06:40 AM   #65
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I know where you are coming from Fiz, I think it's safe to say that we both feel pretty much the same on this
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It took 12 bloody years and many innocent victims from the time the Nazis came to power in 1933 till the time they were defeated in 1945.

These terrorist barbarians are the new Nazis and its going to take a long time to root them out and defeat them....BUT I know that they will ultimately be destroyed, Bin Laden will be caught or killed and the deaths of all their victims will at last be avenged.

Good WILL triumph over evil.
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I agree, defeat the Islamofascists or die.
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Old 06-20-2004, 08:53 AM   #68
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AchtungBono:
I'm sorry it isn't obvious enough for me so i have to ask...
How can you compare Terrorists to Nazis?
The Nazis were a democratic elected government who changed the laws of their country to ensure that they staid in power, they created threats to the nation to ensure that they can claim that everyone who's against them must be a nonpatriotic or a jew - just as a example
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You cannot defeat terrorism you can only try and contain it just like we are containing fascism (there are still lots of fascist groups and I believe even fascist political parties).

The avenging part sounds like a Star Wars epilogue. If everybody keeps on 'avenging' their dead, we'll be busy for a while.
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I think we'll always have terrorism, unfortunately. It can only be contained; it can't be completely stopped. We can do stuff like stop their money supplies and such, but terrorism is a very complex thing that most likely can't really be stopped. Of course I never thought they'd get rid of Communism, either, but they did.
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Of course I never thought they'd get rid of Communism, either, but they did.
Communism isn't gone, not unless you forget to count China, North-Korea and Cuba. I guess those countries will 'embrace' capitalism in the next few decades, but you'll still have communist groups and political parties.
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Bin Laden will be caught or killed and the deaths of all their victims will at last be avenged.

Good WILL triumph over evil.
Of course, bin Laden might already be long dead. The man was very sick around the time of 9/11, and, not coincidentally, we haven't seen definitive proof of his existence since around then.

Al Qaeda may merely be using his ghost to maintain unity, which, in that case, you'll never get bin Laden.

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Communism isn't gone, not unless you forget to count China, North-Korea and Cuba. I guess those countries will 'embrace' capitalism in the next few decades, but you'll still have communist groups and political parties.
True, I guess I should have said I never thought they'd tear down the Berlin wall.
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They still have walls in Berlin
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Walls, yes, but, *the* infamous Berlin wall was torn down, was it not?
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