Macfistowannabe
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What has ATHEISM done for you?
How have you benefited from it?
How have you benefited from it?
My question is simply what has this belief done for your life, and how have you benefitted from it.BassTrap82 said:There is no god
BassTrap82 said:There is no god
VertigoGal said:
Oh.
Thanks a lot.
I'll go run my head into a wall now.
hey, remember that simpsons episode where homer proves there's no god while working on a tax proposal. the one w/ the crayon in the brain. lol
There's not really any proving that, that's why I see it as a belief rather than a fact.BassTrap82 said:I don't think atheism is a believe. Believing in a god is stupid.
God doesn't exist, that's the truth!
Macfistowannabe said:What has ATHEISM done for you?
How have you benefited from it?
Very good answer.VertigoGal:
It made me depressed/suicidal/unable to concentrate on anything/wondering why the hell I'm even here.
I finally submitted to the fact that I can't know either way, if there is or isn't a god. To say for sure that there's nothing else seems arrogant (in the same way that saying you *know* for sure your religion is 100% right is), and frankly during my little atheist spell I spent most of my time wondering what it's like to not exist, feeling there's no point in living, and thinking that I might as well end it now.
Now I'm going with "agnostic".
But then, many religions also seem arrogant if taken as the absolute truth (at least they tell ya where you're going!). So I guess in the same way religions are right for certain people, maybe atheism is right for some people...Just not me.
Even if there is no god, I don't want to know for sure.
It certainly does take a lot of faith (in atheism) to make that absolution. It relies fully on what we might know rather than what we might not know.Irvine 511:
atheism places unshakable faith in logic.
i respect it tremendously.
Macfistowannabe said:What has ATHEISM done for you?
How have you benefited from it?
That's exactly what led me to start this thread. There have been numerous threads about what your faith in a diety does for you. I figured why not have some interesting discussion by reversing the question.melon said:I guess the other question could be asked of religion. What has it done for you? How have you benefitted from it?
Plenty of fulfillment.. hrm... Some dozen replies, and I still have no idea how it can be fulfilling at all.I'm not an atheist, obviously, but I'd imagine that people find plenty of fulfillment outside of religion. Personally, religion gives me nothing more than a huge headache.
Macfistowannabe said:That's exactly what led me to start this thread. There have been numerous threads about what your faith in a diety does for you. I figured why not have some interesting discussion by reversing the question.
Plenty of fulfillment.. hrm... Some dozen replies, and I still have no idea how it can be fulfilling at all.
Bono is referring to the rules and regulations that are associated with the belief in God that often tangle up the message.BassTrap82 said:"Religion is what happens when the spirit has left the building"
--> Bono
Some might find it comforting, and maybe even fulfilling to be able to tune out all the many varied religious solicitors, even the subtle ones in the work place and all the other random encounters.Macfistowannabe said:
Plenty of fulfillment.. hrm... Some dozen replies, and I still have no idea how it can be fulfilling at all.
Such as the rules and regulations aspect of a practiced faith. I can very much see that in a way, where we have the free will to make our decisions how we want to make them. I still don't see how the absense of God is a comforting thought.deep said:Some might find it comforting, and maybe even fulfilling to be able to tune out all the many varied religious solicitors, even the subtle ones in the work place and all the other random encounters.
They can say, “No thanks, I don’t care about heaven, I have no greater plan.
That would be a good thing, but it's nothing out of the ordinary that a spiritual person is capable of accomplishing either.deep said:"I just want to do what is right, right now. For the betterment of society and humanity, to leave a better world when I am gone."
Macfistowannabe said:I still don't see how the absense of God is a comforting thought.
I suppose so. But, is that the only benefit of being an atheist?deep said:You don't see all the arguments and wars about whose God is supreme
and which Religion is the True Religion and only road to salvation?
well, not having to participate in that could be comforting
deep said:
You don't see all the arguments and wars about whose God is supreme
and which Religion is the True Religion and only road to salvation?
well, not having to participate in that could be comforting
deep said:extremely low odds of being recruited to be a suicide bomber?
Explaining faith is impossible....Vision over visibility...Instinct over intellect...A songwriter plays a chord with the faith that he will hear the next one in his head."
That's not a bad explanation. It would make me wonder though, would it matter if I did something "wrong" like stealing if (a) I didn't like the person (b) I could easily get away with it? If you have no way of getting into trouble, what would stop you from such a thing? Would you have an attack of conscience, and if not, then what?sue4u2 said:Maybe not having to account - Ever - to anyone here or where ever - for anything, makes some feel a great deal better about everything they do or don't do.
Some sense of total and complete freedom - in a way??
But I can't speak from an atheist point of view at all.