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Old 03-05-2016, 01:59 PM   #241
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Nope. Obama wasn't vulnerable. The country measurably improved by almost every metric from 08-12, and has continued to do so. He is scandal free. He's a decent, well-mannered person with a lovely family who have been exemplary. You may disagree with his policies, but it's nonsense to paint him as having been lucky. He soundly beat the two best possible Republicans, as well as Hillary Clinton. That isn't luck. That's a formidable politician operating at the top of his game in a country that generally likes and supports him.

Instead of saying Romeny was a terrible candidate, why not just say that he has terrible ideas and championed terrible policies that were rejected by the American people?

Obama has been a terrible president and his first term was a disaster, that's why he was vulnerable. And no, Romney was a terrible candidate. As was McCain.
I'm not going to waste my time debating you on this because I won't convince you otherwise. You're a typical, liberal blind sheep. I know you'll try to spin this and play victim like always, so I'm ready for it.


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Obama has been a terrible president and his first term was a disaster

Why do you consider him a terrible president when as Irvine correctly stated, the country improved by almost every available metric?



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I implore you to read about his personal life. From the illnesses to the substance abuse to the reform.

The dude is crazy, sure, but it's easy to be sympathetic. He backed gay marriage before it was a thing. He's got some decent philanthropy. He's overall a socially... respectable... human being.

Oh, and he left the Repube party because of the ineffective behaviors of people like Ted Cruz, who think shutting the government down is a good way to get what you want. Disagree with the view all you want, but I find that respectable.

Beck is a huge Ted Cruz supporter. He's done several campaign speeches for him.


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Why do you consider him a terrible president when as Irvine correctly stated, the country improved by almost every available metric?



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Our national debt has skyrocketed since he took office. Obviously, Bush increased the deficit as well, but under the Obama administration, our debt has doubled; we cannot sustain this kind of debt. Eventually, open market operations can only take us so far.
The pull out of Iraq was a disaster. We should have never been there, but he handled it terribly. Libya and Egypt were handled even worse. Led to radical Islam taking over both countries!
Obamacare is a disaster. It needs to be repealed and replaced.
Our racial divisions are worse than they've been since the 60's and his leadership throughout has been abysmal.
Yes, the economy was a mess when he took office, but this has been the slowest recovery since the Great Depression. Record numbers of people who have dropped out of the work force.
I could go on and on...


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Obama has been a terrible president and his first term was a disaster, that's why he was vulnerable. And no, Romney was a terrible candidate. As was McCain.
I'm not going to waste my time debating you on this because I won't convince you otherwise. You're a typical, liberal blind sheep. I know you'll try to spin this and play victim like always, so I'm ready for it.


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Hello, pot? This is the kettle calling.
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Our national debt has skyrocketed since he took office. Obviously, Bush increased the deficit as well, but under the Obama administration, our debt has doubled; we cannot sustain this kind of debt. Eventually, open market operations can only take us so far.
The pull out of Iraq was a disaster. We should have never been there, but he handled it terribly. Libya and Egypt were handled even worse. Led to radical Islam taking over both countries!
Obamacare is a disaster. It needs to be repealed and replaced.
Our racial divisions are worse than they've been since the 60's and his leadership throughout has been abysmal.
Yes, the economy was a mess when he took office, but this has been the slowest recovery since the Great Depression. Record numbers of people who have dropped out of the work force.
I could go on and on...


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Hello, pot? This is the kettle calling.

My name's not Pot. These are inanimate objects. How could they possibly communicate?


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Sorry Oregoropa, you're wrong. I was watching the show and it was directed at his co host Stu, not Trump. They're good buds and were fooling around.
Already been proven that it was wrongly reported.
Trumpbart.....excuse me Breitbart...ran with the story of course. The Trump people are out to get Beck because he has Trump pegged down and will not stop attacking him.

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Breitbart has NEVER needed facts, because he knows his audience doesn't care for them.


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Of course Obama was a terrible president to those living in the right wing media bubble. They were told that everyday, so it must be true.

And this myth that racial tensions are worst because of Obama is absolutely laughable.


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Name one Republican politician who would have beaten Obama in 2008 and/or in 2012.

It should be easy to do. Obama is objectively terrible, and McCain/Romney were just bad candidates.
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Name one Republican politician who would have beaten Obama in 2008 and/or in 2012.

It should be easy to do. Obama is objectively terrible, and McCain/Romney were just bad candidates.

No one would have beat Obama in 2008. That was Obama's year for sure. The republicans never stood a chance, nor did they deserve to. We were coming off 8 years of a weak republican president and a terrible republican congress. Obama got people excited and was what the democrats needed. Also helped that McCain was a weak candidate and Palin...well that goes without saying.
In 2012, Chris Christie could have beat Obama. He was very popular at the time and actually led vs. Obama in many speculative polls. He ran four years too late. Romney could have won, but he ran a terrible campaign. In fact, I think he would have been a good president, just ran a terrible campaign and flubbed the last 2 debates. Credit to Obama, he is an excellent speaker and debater. Plus, he ran two very good campaigns.

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The first two episodes weren't good.


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