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Could have used a shot of "kneel" in the cut-up lyrics gag.

Yep --they were on the right track but it was far and away from being a really clever ball bashing. As said up thread tho, there were some good parts. It could've been really funny with a few more sharp details. I remember when I was young and sensitive and this kind of horseshit would bother me. If anything I've grown to love U2 even more as I've gotten older, warts and all (me AND them). Go ahead, take your pot shots. Don't care anymore (as The Unforgettable Fire plays in the background).
 
mama cass said:
i dunno, i always think of capitalism as in political theory capitalism, with a capital C lol!

(more specifically, Wallerstein's theory with the periphery and core, his "octopus" theory, the imbalanced exploitative way capitalism has to function... that's what always comes to my mind when i think of capitalism...)

maybe that's not what B-man meant, which is why i reckon he could've chosen his words more wisely, "capitalism" can conjure up all kinds of evil thoughts LOL

Yea... but...

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Helloooooo capitalism!
 
Yeah, capitalism sucks so bad! I wish I lived under a socialist regime where a select few "experts" controlled what I could buy and how much it costs. Also, I like it when they take most of my paycheck from me and control what news comes out and totally limit freedoms. It's awesome!

(Are people retarded? Capitalism is awesome. It's what allows U2 to put out albums and go on tour instead of working at a gas station.)
 
Yeah, capitalism sucks so bad! I wish I lived under a socialist regime where a select few "experts" controlled what I could buy and how much it costs. Also, I like it when they take most of my paycheck from me and control what news comes out and totally limit freedoms. It's awesome!

(Are people retarded? Capitalism is awesome. It's what allows U2 to put out albums and go on tour instead of working at a gas station.)

On this forum most people's idea of socialism is more like Sweden or Denmark where there's still plenty of capitalism. Maybe Vlad is a communist (his version of it) but most everyone else is under the social democracy umbrella.
 
Socialism means Un-American, remember?

One Nation under God
Has turned into
One Nation under the influence
Of one drug

Television, the drug of the Nation
Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation

T.V., I.T. satellite links
Our United States of unconciousness
Apathetic therapeutic and extremely addictive
The methadone metronome pumping out
150 channels 24 hours a day
You can flip through all of them
And still there's nothing worth watching

T.V. is the reason why less than ten percent of our
Nation reads books daily
Why most people think Central America
Means Kansas
Socialism means unamerican
And Apartheid is a new headache remedy

Absorbed in it's world it's so hard to find us
It shapes our minds the most
Maybe the mother of our Nation
Should remind us
That we're sitting to close to

Television, the drug of the Nation
Breeding ignorance and feeding radiation
 
Yeah, capitalism sucks so bad! I wish I lived under a socialist regime where a select few "experts" controlled what I could buy and how much it costs. Also, I like it when they take most of my paycheck from me and control what news comes out and totally limit freedoms. It's awesome!

(Are people retarded? Capitalism is awesome. It's what allows U2 to put out albums and go on tour instead of working at a gas station.)

LOL that's not even what socialism is. And there are actual socialist 'regimes' in the world? Yes, because there is totally a society in the world where the workers control the means of production. Capitalists need to look up the definition of socialism first before they start shaking your fists at it, it's baffling how many capitalists couldn't define it if their life depended on it.

On this forum most people's idea of socialism is more like Sweden or Denmark where there's still plenty of capitalism. Maybe Vlad is a communist (his version of it) but most everyone else is under the social democracy umbrella.

My version? :laugh: There's only one version of it.

(inb4 but Soviet Russia!1!11!! and China!1!!1! and North Korea!1!!1)
 
Why are we even talking politics here this is the place where we mindlessly discuss release dates that won't ever eventuate.
 
Yeah, capitalism sucks so bad! I wish I lived under a socialist regime where a select few "experts" controlled what I could buy and how much it costs. Also, I like it when they take most of my paycheck from me and control what news comes out and totally limit freedoms. It's awesome!

(Are people retarded? Capitalism is awesome. It's what allows U2 to put out albums and go on tour instead of working at a gas station.)

woooo that sure told me! plonker! :lol:
 
He's said plenty similar things plenty of times. I recall an interview on the sidelines of the World Economic Forum in 2008 w/Thomas Friedman, Bono and Al Gore. Bono was asked something to the effect of there being a tension between capitalism and what he was trying to accomplish regarding disease, poverty, etc and he was very clear with his "NO" answer.

He said something to the effect of "I've long since gotten over this whole idea of artists good, businessmen bad, I got over that when I was about 20, ok?"

And as that linked interview from Toronto in 1981 makes clear, U2, and Bono especially, always had a different mind set when it came to those things.

That different mind set is a big part of why they're still around and successful, I'd say.

And I'd also say that Bono is right.

Giving $$ to any charity is nice - but if the charity doesn't do the right things with the money, you can give forever and the problem will remain. It's fine to buy RED items or donate to time or money to ONE, but really, the issue here is finding a way to help stabilize an area. To do that, one needs infrastructure. No more corrupt dictators running off with hundreds of millions of dollars meant to be used for the people of the country. Instead, they need jobs - jobs that help create roads, food, schools, hospitals, etc. As those places are built, more jobs are needed to run and maintain each area. So job creation will help people get out of poverty. And job creation will help bring relief from starvation and disease. It won't happen overnight. But donating just money or food isn't the answer. We'll be donating forever. A one time emergency situation due to natural disaster is different. But in Africa, this has been going on for decades - it's time to change.

As for Bono's 1981 statement - of course they wanted success. Who doesn't? Those of you who are in school - if I asked you, "Do you worry that, after all your hard work in college, that obtaining a high-paying job will spoil you?" I doubt your answer will be, "Yes - and I hope to find the lowest paying job available such that I stay true to myself."
 
On this forum most people's idea of socialism is more like Sweden or Denmark where there's still plenty of capitalism. Maybe Vlad is a communist (his version of it) but most everyone else is under the social democracy umbrella.

Thought this was funny in light of recent comments:
Sweden pays jobless youth to move to Norway - Telegraph

Hey, when's tha' new beach clips comin' out? (Usually there's a rare song that a fan site releases on New Years day.)
 
And I'd also say that Bono is right.

Giving $$ to any charity is nice - but if the charity doesn't do the right things with the money, you can give forever and the problem will remain. It's fine to buy RED items or donate to time or money to ONE, but really, the issue here is finding a way to help stabilize an area. To do that, one needs infrastructure. No more corrupt dictators running off with hundreds of millions of dollars meant to be used for the people of the country. Instead, they need jobs - jobs that help create roads, food, schools, hospitals, etc. As those places are built, more jobs are needed to run and maintain each area. So job creation will help people get out of poverty. And job creation will help bring relief from starvation and disease. It won't happen overnight. But donating just money or food isn't the answer. We'll be donating forever. A one time emergency situation due to natural disaster is different. But in Africa, this has been going on for decades - it's time to change.

As for Bono's 1981 statement - of course they wanted success. Who doesn't? Those of you who are in school - if I asked you, "Do you worry that, after all your hard work in college, that obtaining a high-paying job will spoil you?" I doubt your answer will be, "Yes - and I hope to find the lowest paying job available such that I stay true to myself."

fantastic post in a forum full of zingers.
 
djerdap said:
I don't listen to anything else but U2 so this will have to do in my intense anticipation of Songs of Ascent.

Same here. I here about this thing called Indy music, but I'm not from Indiana. So if I'm looking for something new, I pop in a U2 album and pretend I've never heard it before.

I also hate any band that threatens U2's popularity. U2 must win!
 
On this forum most people's idea of socialism is more like Sweden or Denmark where there's still plenty of capitalism. Maybe Vlad is a communist (his version of it) but most everyone else is under the social democracy umbrella.

amen....

But when i was growing up Socialism = Communism.
There was no real knowledgeat all of European Social Democracy! I had to learn about that myself in later years.
In fact it's still somewhat difficult for me to say i might be leaning more towards a more socialistic democratic government from such young age of getting it pounded in) after a bunch of years occasionally meeting people from those countries, and reading stuff.

Or back to the higer taxations of the eisenhower/kennedy (but not the sexism & rascism) plus add in the great society & medicaid, envoronmental from from Nixon (Nixon! I know!) And later gains for the LGBT community.

And the kind of even more help for middle & woirking classes that FDR proposed further before his untimely death, or really interesting progressive living wage ideas from Teddy Roosevlt!

well ooops for going further off-topic! :lol:


ETA> good post dr who
 
Where is the new album!

They can't finish it because they need to see if Obama wins the election. If he does then they will make a song called "Stand up CHUCK!" and Joe Biden will star in the video:

Joe Biden Tells Chuck Graham to Stand Up - YouTube

Edge will be in the wheelchair and the guitar solo will kick in.

The second single will be Malarkey Smile. Biden's smiling will be intercut with Bono's fucked girl wails and camera humping.

Distraction: Biden smiles - YouTube

If Romney wins then they'll fire Danger Mouse and get back to RedOne and do some capitalistic boy band music.

If We Ever Meet Without You (U2 vs Timbaland) - YouTube
 
It won't be any good if Newt Gingrich won't be in it breakdancing.
 
Just think, exactly a year from now we're all going to be excited about the new album which will only be a couple of weeks away, and we'll have already praised/lambasted the new single, hated on the album title, and be checking torrent sites for the inevitable leak.
Either that, or we'll be shitted off at the album being delayed until the following year.
 
Sweden and Denmark are more into capitalism than many countries that claim to be purely capitalist. And yes, there is not much difference between communism and socialism. Almost equally disastrous.
 
Capitalism is looking pretty disastrous for the average person right now...

in the news, today, privatized utilities firms are fixing wholesaler prices, hiking up energy costs and selling to the consumer at crippling prices and people are struggling and going without basics such as heating, here in Europe

and you get corporations, such as Starbucks and Amazon for example, which have driven small businesses, independent cafes and bookshops out of business, in the UK, yet they're managing to evade corporation tax on a massive scale - you think that's OK?

Capitalism is great for the corporations, but not so much for the average family who are struggling to make ends meet until the end of each month due to being hit by cut after cut after cut as well as increased taxes...

fwiw, i find it nauseating that B'man's (RED) is associated with some of these corporations quite frankly - i would love to know what their stance is on this latest Starbucks scandal... they really should choose their partners more wisely - or risk losing their credibility... they probably don't give a shit though LOL
 
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