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Old 09-01-2017, 01:31 PM   #31
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This place is mad :-)

Maybe they will make the announcement for the album after the best thing has been released and had chance to shine.

If they release the single next week and it goes down well everything will be focused on that and only that. Maybe they think announcing the album would take the headlines away from the single coming out. If it's coming out in December they have more then enough time to announce it.

Even though it would only be a little distraction. Maybe they want the headlines to say u2 back with killer single rather then new u2 album out 1st December
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Old 09-01-2017, 01:35 PM   #32
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Yup.
Classic second guessing

The now-scrapped mix was on the table for months..
Not just a scrapped mix but the sound engineer's post says it's for a "new recently recorded version".

Could this have been recorded in August during their break? Remember U2 posted a photo of Bono and Edge with an acoustic guitar. So we know they were recording recently.
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ok so i've been away at the seaside all week - what did i miss?

heh just messing - i lurked on my phone now and again and had a particularly good giggle at KUEF (how's yer blood pressure mate? )

now just to stick on my headphones and have a proper listen, and then i will give my verdict
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Old 09-01-2017, 01:40 PM   #34
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Just wanted to note one thing that Instagram post said, specific wording:

"Turned out to be the U2 song we were mixing last year. They are FINALLY releasing it and wanted us to have another shot to mix this new recently recorded version."

This doesn't suggest they're recording "new" material, rather that they recorded material for a song last year, mixed it back then, and now have re-recorded the same song and were asking for new mixes of it.

This suggests a really, really good thing, something we've all hoped they would do in the past: sounds like they recorded the songs, mixed them, had the album ready to go...and now are somewhat revisiting those songs after sitting on them and living with them for months.

How many debates are on here comparing the studio version of a song vs. a live version they've been playing and living with for months? And almost always, the prevailing opinion is: sure, the album version is okay/good, but once they really dug into it after the album was released, they figured out the "best" version of it, and now it's a great/classic/etc.

This time, sounds like they're just doing the "playing it and living with it to unearth the best possible version of it" behind closed doors, not in public on a stage.
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also you jabronis... if they are going on tour in a couple of days and release a new single this week, doesn't it stand to reason that they would, y'know, rehearse said new single?

maybe they found something in playing it over the month of august that said, "hey, somebody hit the record button let's see how this sounds?"

you guys are all turkeys, except for those protecting this house.
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also you jabronis... if they are going on tour in a couple of days and release a new single this week, doesn't it stand to reason that they would, y'know, rehearse said new single?

maybe they found something in playing it over the month of august that said, "hey, somebody hit the record button let's see how this sounds?"

you guys are all turkeys, except for those protecting this house.


Soundcheck tomorrow will be interesting
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Soundcheck tomorrow will be interesting
looking forward to the freakout when no new songs are rehearsed*


* - just like when the band quickly wisened up and turned the PA off when they played Little Things leading up to the JT tour opener.
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and they very well may wait until after the Buffalo and Detroit shows to play Best Thing, or maybe they'll want to start some grassroots social media marketing campaign by playing it and letting some YouTube live takes go online to have some anticipation for Wednesday. who knows.
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the band has pulled big boners in the past. But it would be a big boner if they pulled out now. Since they are so close to completion.
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The band are second guessing the songs on the album. That is probably why the information was pulled. Maybe they had 11 songs that they were completely happy with, then Edge went and tinkered with another and lobbied hard for the band to include it.

So rather than release information saying SOE, 11 tracks of hot RAWK FIRE FROM VENUS.....they are now trying to figure out if another song or two needs to be included. It's not the end of the world to say the album has 11 tracks, and then later on it has 12....but in the industry now when albums are just dropped, they probably want to have the info as accurate as possible.

Plus with U2, and tiny misinformation and they will get blasted.

I'm like RD, until there is an actual release date, I'm not putting my chips in. Even then, it wouldn't shock me for U2 to push back the release date. Blame it on North Korea or something.

U2 WANTS A HIT!!! Anything less than that and it's a failure. They took a huge hit with SOI and the release strategy, and what made it worse, not a single song resonated off that album. At least with NLOTH, Moment of Surrender seemed to get a lot of praise even if it was never released.

So we will get a single next week. U2 will gauge the reaction to it, and then if it's a good enough hit and press from it, they'll announce when the album is coming out. If it flops, they will probably stay quiet and try to figure something else out later on, if not scrap the fucking thing.

This isn't out of the realm of possibility. The reviewer from a thread or two ago even said it himself, U2 really wants to be played on the radio again. He said it was obvious by the tracks he heard. TBT is their shot at radio play, and then they have a bunch of RAWK songs to try and follow it up.

U2 cannot just make the music they want, they need to be loved for it too. I hope SOE gives them (and us) that feeling.
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Maybe your assessment is accurate and they've fallen victim to their own over-achievers need for perfection, maybe. But it wouldn't be out of line to interpret the assistant mix engineer's statement a little differently ... if he is to be believed 100% as someone who knows the precise details of the band's final decision .. he said he was assisting Lillywhite with a mix of newly recorded tracks. That's not really scrapping a mix. That's a new mix, of newly recorded material.

Maybe the band did it for shits and giggles. To see what was possible. Maybe they lay all the final mixes on the table and pick the one they prefer. Maybe the one that was on the table for months is the one that gets mastered and released. Maybe the band over-explores all their options but it is way too soon to fault them for 'classic second guessing' as that seems like a derogatory dig at the band. Why go there just yet?
Maybe, and I remember reading with AB they also had different mixes of songs to choose from.

However...it is a fact they deleted that text about album details coming next week so who knows ? If Blackout makes it on JTtour live it will be a good sign they're ready to go.
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The band are second guessing the songs on the album. That is probably why the information was pulled. Maybe they had 11 songs that they were completely happy with, then Edge went and tinkered with another and lobbied hard for the band to include it.

So rather than release information saying SOE, 11 tracks of hot RAWK FIRE FROM VENUS.....they are not trying to figure out if another song or two needs to be included. It's not the end of the world to say the album has 11 tracks, and then later on it has 12....but in the industry now when albums are just dropped, they probably want to have the info as accurate as possible.

Plus with U2, and tiny misinformation and they will get blasted.

I'm like RD, until there is an actual release date, I'm not putting my chips in. Even then, it wouldn't shock me for U2 to push back the release date. Blame it on North Korea or something.

U2 WANTS A HIT!!! Anything less than that and it's a failure. They took a huge hit with SOI and the release strategy, and what made it worse, not a single song resonated off that album. At least with NLOTH, Moment of Surrender seemed to get a lot of praise even if it was never released.

So we will get a single next week. U2 will gauge the reaction to it, and then if it's a good enough hit and press from it, they'll announce when the album is coming out. If it flops, they will probably stay quiet and try to figure something else out later on, if not scrap the fucking thing.

This isn't out of the realm of possibility. The reviewer from a thread or two ago even said it himself, U2 really wants to be played on the radio again. He said it was obvious by the tracks he heard. TBT is their shot at radio play, and then they have a bunch of RAWK songs to try and follow it up.

U2 cannot just make the music they want, they need to be loved for it too. I hope SOE gives them (and us) that feeling.


Oh come on am sorry but am not having that they scrap it, the promotion all says from upcoming album SOE, they have never pushed an album back based on reaction to a single, i was hoping for reassurance from this place today but feel as negative as ever now, when really it should have all been exciting after Wednesday
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Look, the band is the the JT tour until October 25th.
Swifty the poor put upon, mistreated megastar releases on November 10th. So realistically, they could possibly release the album on October 27th, or November 3rd. After that, they are way better off waiting til Dec. 1 to release the album. Let the attention from swift wear off, and the sales numbers to come down a bit, but still early enough for some holiday boost.

I think that the first show and next wednesday will show us that everything is on track.

keep calm people. any other subject to talk about....
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Maybe, and I remember reading with AB they also had different mixes of songs to choose from.



However...it is a fact they deleted that text about album details coming next week so who knows ? If Blackout makes it on JTtour live it will be a good sign they're ready to go.


This is what I keep harping on about, they must be ready to go otherwise why even mention SOE? I am even more confused than ever
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Unless I missed it, I haven't seen any bad press about The Blackout as a song. They're just being the perfectionists they are with The Best Thing and took a last stab at it. If anything were getting the album earlier than expected.
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