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Old 04-16-2005, 04:26 PM   #46
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For me, I don't mind people disagreeing with an opinion but it's the way some people do it.

Also, as far as certain other board members that people have issues with, I think these people are ticked off at the troll-like behavior not the fact that someone is disagreeing with them. There are some people that get their jollies out stirring things up. I, personally, think that's a sad waste of time. And the one particular one that everyone keeps talking about has had a habit of doing so since way back on Wire in the mid to late 90's. Most of the time I just don't read threads started by people like that. Sometimes, however, it's hard to ignore the people trying to stir up trouble.

I'm an admin at another forum (not U2 related) and we are much more strict than here. I don't think this forum is overly moderated at all, I think they are pretty loose, actually.
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Old 04-16-2005, 04:33 PM   #48
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I'm a member of a few boards where there is little to no moderation and the people, as a whole, are more respectful than here.

I often wonder if the presence of moderators gives some people the excuse they can behave badly because they will be told off if they get out of hand, rather than take responsibility for their own posts.

Not that moderation is the issue here. I'm concerned that some people appear unable to self moderate. I'm aware people have off days. I'm not referring to the odd wobbly. I'm refering to people who seem to believe that bullying is okay.
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Also, as far as certain other board members that people have issues with, I think these people are ticked off at the troll-like behavior not the fact that someone is disagreeing with them. There are some people that get their jollies out stirring things up. I, personally, think that's a sad waste of time. And the one particular one that everyone keeps talking about has had a habit of doing so since way back on Wire in the mid to late 90's.
Finally, someone else who knows what I'm talking about. It isn't the OPINIONS that are the problem, it's the trolling. Either that, or it's deliberate misinformation. However you want to classify it, that's what the main problem is. NOT a dissenting opinion. And it should be punishable.

I'm more anti-establishment than most people I know. But it seems that Interference members just like railing against the system and seeking consipiracies. I firmly believe that the banning process isn't something one moderator does on a whim. There has to be a good reason for it, a long history, and an agreement by other higher-ups. That's good enough for me.


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I have never lynched or bullied anyone in my life. I have nothing against people who have different opinions than mine or who like to criticize the band. To be honest I very much welcome this pots/threads as sometimes they can be eye openers and I'm ready to have my mind changed if I'm wrong at something or if I see a new point of view. But there's a difference between criticizing and simply trolling. I can't stand trolling, especially when it's done in a way that makes it seem like the person is being respectful or not really trying to offend anyone. That really pisses me off and upsets me quite a bit and I can't pretend that it's not happening (I wish I could but I can't).
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Finally, someone else who knows what I'm talking about. It isn't the OPINIONS that are the problem, it's the trolling. Either that, or it's deliberate misinformation. However you want to classify it, that's what the main problem is. NOT a dissenting opinion. And it should be punishable.

I'm more anti-establishment than most people I know. But it seems that Interference members just like railing against the system and seeking consipiracies. I firmly believe that the banning process isn't something one moderator does on a whim. There has to be a good reason for it, a long history, and an agreement by other higher-ups. That's good enough for me.


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Old 04-16-2005, 04:59 PM   #53
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I'm a member of a few boards where there is little to no moderation and the people, as a whole, are more respectful than here.
I am also a member of a few boards with little or no moderation and the places are shit holes because of it.
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I don't think this forum is overly moderated at all, I think they are pretty loose, actually.
i agree. other forums i go to are ruled with an iron fist compared to here. the problem is here (and i'm gonna be really honest for a minute) there are quite a few people who question everything the mods do. questioning is okay but some people do it to the point where it interferes with our work.

i can't speak for the other mods here but i know at times i've avoided saying things to people or in threads because i don't want to get yelled at for doing my job because i had to yell at a popular member or something. questioning authority is okay, hell people should do that. but to the point where it's not clear if you respect the authority or not is a big no-no imo.
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I am also a member of a few boards with little or no moderation and the places are shit holes because of it.
very true. i've seen the same thing many times.

as far as the topic goes, i think maturity is the real issue. those who respect others' opinions will be respected a lot more, whether it's here, or real life. when it comes to interference, respecting others' opinions is and should be criteria for being allowed to stay here. somehow, i've slipped through the cracks over the years.
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I am also a member of a few boards with little or no moderation and the places are shit holes because of it.
I think it depends on the people who post. Some boards I post on are very relaxed and easygoing with very little moderation. Others are a lot more fiesty.


On a slightly differnt slant.... U2 in many people's minds seem to be given almost god-like status. I can't help but wonder if that has a great deal to do with the intense reactions against perceived negative comments against the band or their work. After all attacks (even just perceived ones) on religion or religious belief are generally not well tolerated.
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I'm also a member of boards with little or no moderation and so therefore I'm used to lack of moderation or very little moderation which is why my perspective of the moderation of this place is colored in a specific way.
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