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Old 02-06-2006, 01:18 AM   #211
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In regards to the two "blown calls":

The pass interference/TD:
If you don't think that was a PI then you're either blind or don't watch football. The corner's feet moved back half a yard after the receiver shoved him, his progress was clearly impeded.

The Roethlisburger run:
Clearly a touchdown. Roethlisburger's arm was 4 inches past the front plane of the goal line before he got hit, and unless his hands are unnaturally fat, that ball crossed the plane.

People who say otherwise are either sore loser Seabags fans or are completely ignorant about the game of football.

And whoever decided that that asswipe Tom Brady (instead of one of the FAR more deserving former MVP's there - Bart Starr, anyone? Larry Czonka? Lynn Swann?) should toss the coin should be shot. Just another thing on a long list of things that Brady can't throw.
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Old 02-06-2006, 02:11 AM   #212
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please, i like pittsburgh, and i had reasons to root for them. i like bill cohwer and how they stuck with him through bad times, i like bettis, i like ben, antwaan randle el went to my college so it was good to see him win it. but anybody who is neutral watching the game knows that there were some horribIe horribIe caIIs
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Old 02-06-2006, 02:23 AM   #213
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I agree there were bad calls. The Hasselbeck block comes immediately to mind.

But those two calls were the correct ones.

Your conspiracy theory shit is getting old and tired.
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Bad pre game show, pretty bad half time show, pretty bad game
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anyone know where I can find a clip of U2's half time performance?
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i guess the titIe of this articIe shouId have been "Everyone Agrees the Officiating Stunk except for DaveC"

http://blog.sportscolumn.com/story/2006/2/6/3505/69039


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http://saintsreport.com/forums/showt...hreadid=193639
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'HAWKS HAVE RIGHT TO CRY FOUL

We'll need to preface these remarks by saying that we're glad the Steelers won the Super Bowl. The Steelers are a first-class organization in a first-rate town. Yours truly grew up an hour from the 'Burgh, went to college there, and started out in the practice of law there.

And the Steelers earned this one, the hard way. Sixth seed, winning three games against quality teams on the road to get to the championship game.

With all that said, the Seattle Seahawks have every right to believe that they got screwed by the zebras. We're into our fifth year now, and this game provoked the biggest flood of e-mails we've ever received.

So as we raise a lukewarm plastic cup of Iron City to the Stillers, we have to agree that the game was poorly officiated, in various ways. Although we're reluctant to proclaim that the fix was in, Pittsburgh linebacker Joey Porter's pissing-and-moaning from three weeks ago is ironic, to say the least, following a Super Bowl in which any of the 53 men in the Seattle locker room would be able to make the same claim about the refs wanting Jerome Bettis and the Steelers to win that Porter made regarding his belief that the officials hoped to deliver Peyton Manning and the Colts to Detroit.

Here's a sampling of the e-mails that flooded our box:

1. "I am not a Steelers or Seahawks fan, but I have to say that this was one of the worst officiated Super Bowls I've seen in a long time. Sad to see the refs have an impact on what would have been a great game."

2. "Okay, I'm on the bandwagon now. That appeared to be one of the worst
officiated Super Bowls I've seen. The call that were made were ticky
tack (on both teams), and plenty of apparent calls were missed. Professional officials. What a novel concept."

3. "This Super Bowl sucks. As fans, we want to see a real game. The refs are CLEARLY handing this game to the Steelers. Your scoop on Sports Illustrated already having the Steelers retrospective printed up just seals it for me. I don't know if SI is part of a conspiracy, or if they just know how the NFL operates. A Steelers win equals more revenue for the NFL, in terms of merchandise. Holmgren should've taken that into consideration when he was offered the Seattle job."



4. "The NFL should be embarrassed. And I am an impartial fan. I didn't care who won but I sure didn't want to see it happen that way."



5. "Please for the love of GOD write something about the horrible officiating in the game today. Granted I'm a little biased and wanted the 'Hawks to win but if they lost I'd been fine if the Steelers were the better team. THEY WEREN'T and we played against the officials all night. Please say something about this injustice!"



Here's one we found to be particularly compelling:

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I don't know who else I can vent on, so you're getting it. I apologize, but I don't know who else. I seriously don't. So here goes:

This Super Bowl was it. I'm done now. I'm through watching football. I've had it.

This was the worst officiated professional game I have ever watched -- the most one-sided, I mean. And it happened on the biggest game of the year. The two teams did not determine the winner of that game today; the referees did.

So I'm through. I quit on the NFL. Screw them. If that's the best they can do, I quit.

I've got other hobbies I can pursue.

Look, I am not a Seahawks fan. I was not a fan of either team.

But sonuvabitch-------Roethlisberger's PHANTOM TOUCHDOWN???? That was the hugest phantom touchdown I have seen since Vinny Testaverde pulled one of those off.

And when Hasselbeck connected with TE Jerramy Stevens to the one yard line late in the third quarter, those a****** zebras throw a holding flag -- and it was one of those borderline holding calls that could literally BE CALLED ON ALMOST EVERY DAMN PASSING PLAY.

Look, I came to watch a game, a game between football players. I didn't come to watch a crew of striped-shirted old men determine the outcome of a game.

F those guys. I'm out. The hell with football. I no longer trust it.

There was no 2005 champion. If the Steelers had won it, I'd say so. But the zebras won it, for 60 consecutive minutes. Again, I am not a Seahawks fan. I just care about the integrity of the game. I feel sick. I'm out. Maybe for good. The hell with it.

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Damn. Here's some more.

6. "I'm a long time reader and supporter of your site and I would love to
voice my disgust of the dubious refereeing decisions of tonight's game: (1) Darrell Jackson's push-off -- "The Playmaker" would have had half of his career TD's called back if they had called them like that in his day; (2) I still don't know how Ben broke the plane of the goal line with his TD; The holding call that would have made it first and goal from the one -- very dubious!"

7. "Where's that big time wrestling channel. Joey Porter better shut his yap about the officials cheating the Steelers. They cheated their way to a World Title tonight."

8. "How about that officiating in the Super Bowl? Worst Super Bowl I've ever seen. Why did the NFL decide Pittsburgh would get this one? The third and six delay of game. Those holding calls (especially the one nullifying Stevens' catch to the one). The personal foul for illegal chop block on Hasselbeck MAKING A TACKLE. The offensive PI against Jackson. I am sick to my stomach right now, and I didn't even care who won. (Not a fan of either team, no money riding)."

9. "No one could have beaten the Steelers tonight, and it's not because they are playing especially well. Seattle is playing against 11 Steelers and however many officials are on the field. This is embarrassing to watch, and Pittsburgh should be embarrassed to win like this. Every pivotal play was negated against Seattle with some bullsh-t call, which would then be followed by a breakdown by Seattle players who obviously were shaken up by such a bullsh-t call. That touchdown that Roethlisberger had makes me wonder why we have replays as much or more so than the Polamalu call that you called the worst call ever. If the NFL is going to run its officiating with such bias like the NBA or MLB, then they might as well drop the salary cap too. Why do people go to games in cities like Seattle or Sacramento when they only get repeatedly f--ked in the a** by their respective leagues?"

10. "The REAL MVP was the referee crew. They took the game from Seattle and gave it to the Steelers. Don't get me wrong, I was pulling for Pittsburgh but I didn't want to see them win like that. The Seahawks were the more dominant team (although, not by much). Kinda seems weird to me that
just recently everyone was griping about the NFL trying to give a game to
Colts. Is it just me or is this the new trend in the NFL? b**** and moan
to get it your way."

11. "You were one of the few national writers to pick the Seahawks to win the Super Bowl, and they were obviously the better team tonight. You mentioned 'raw will of players' and 'coaching adjustments,' but you forgot one major factor in the NFL . . . the zebras."

12. "Want to break a huge story? Why don't you use your connections and see who organized the Steelers Super Bowl fix? That would be the biggest story ever."

13. "Can you please, please acknowledge the horsesh-t calls in this game? This is the worst SB I have ever seen when it comes to officiating. Where are the calls on the Steelers?? This deserves to be mentioned and I am a Dolphins fan."

Here's another long one that caught our eye:

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I don't give a flying f--k about the Steelers or the Seahawks. Furthermore, I
didn't have any money on this game, so I really had no investment in the outcome.

THAT said, the way the zebras railroaded the Seahawks was unforgivable. The pass interference on the end zone? The holding call that turned first and goal on the two to second and 20 from the 40? The BS cutblock call on Hasselbeck? The fact that the Steelers never, EVER got called for holding when the holding calls (at key points in the game) that went against the Hawks were marginal at best?

As a FOOTBALL fan, all I could think about was two weeks of "feel good" Jerome Bettis and Bill Cowher stories, an old boys network owner, and all those photos of players holding the Lomardi, which it seemed like they were only showing Steelers in the first half and showed Steelers 65% of the time in the second half.

The whole thing stunk. 'Cause at this point, although September is a good seven months away, it's going to be hard to get excited about a league that has developed the best product on earth, only to piss away their integrity when everyone is watching.

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Again, we don't think the fix was in. But there were more than a few times when the Steelers fans with whom yours truly watched the game looked around and said, "We got away with one there."

More to come in our Super Bowl XL Ten-Pack, which we'll post later on Monday.
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Again, didn't the missed field goals have some impact on the game? I just don't buy that this game was won on bad calls alone.
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um did i say the game was decided on bad calls alone?

did seattle play like crap and miss out on the opportunities they did have? sure, jeremy stevens dropped like 100 passes. seattles clock management was something martz would be proud of.

but did the embarrasingly bad officiating have a huge effect on the game? you bet.
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i think the holding call on their first TD pass was very questionable

the holding call where he caught it at the one was very questionable

the pass interference on the TD was very questionable

ben was not in the endzone on that TD

the personal foul penalty on hassleback was ridiculously bad, he was making the tackle

the fumble call on hassleback was terrible, which at least got overturned due to replay

just so many bad calls, all against seattle. i dont care who wins this game, but such poor officiating taints the game.

like joe said, just that one bad holding call completely changed the game, and thats sad to see.
While I won't go so far as to say the officials were trying to give the Pittsburgh Bettises the win, they absolutely were horendous in this game and most of this postseason.
When the officiating crew is that noticeable, you have problems.

As for DaveC's disputes...the PI on Jackson was extreeeeemley ticky tacky. Cryin' Hines pushed off far more noticeably later in the game with no flag.

As for Ben's TD. Watch the replay and you can see he ball begin to slip from his fingers as it approaches the goal line. The official is signalling 4th down, then Ben slides the ball over th GL and the linesman changes his call to TD after he's run halfway in from the sideline. I think if Roethlishamburger's glove is white and not black, you'd notice the ball slip out of his hand and back towards his stomach before hitting he plane of the GL and therefore not a TD, but the play was definitely not conclusive enough for replay to overturn.

Hasselbeck getting flagged for making a tackle is just ponderous.

That said, as bad as the officiating was (read that very bad), Seattle's clock management and late game play calling were worse.
They completely fouled up the drive before halftime, forcing a 54 yard FG attempt.
But worse was their penultimate drive of the game. Down 11 points, huddling on every play, 3 runs in the mix, and lastly frigging punting with about 6 minutes left. I know it was 4th and long after the sack, but you have to try and win the game, by punting you pretty much gave up.

And Big Ben was horrendous, 22.6 QB rating.

All in all not a very "super" bowl.

Congrats to the Steelers. You know the Pats would have whooped your asses had they got past Denver. Next year baby.
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and the douchebag of the night award goes to Joe Montana for demanding a 100,000 dollar appearance fee to show up with all the other superbowl MVP's during the pregame ceremony and then not showing up when they wouldnt give him the money.
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Terry Bradshaw didn't show either, though not supposedly over money.
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