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Although one might also wonder if "sweater" = "clothes you sweat in," which sure makes it sound like something I never want to wear.
it's called a sweater because it absorbs sweat, i believe. though i'm not sure why you'd wear one if you're sweating. i wouldn't wear one in summer because that's silly, and in winter if i'm wearing one and get warm, i take it off (i'm wearing a shirt underneath obvs).

You don't have to be 21 to buy a beer. /discussion
you don't have to be in canada either. oh snap.
 
it's called a sweater because it absorbs sweat, i believe. though i'm not sure why you'd wear one if you're sweating. i wouldn't wear one in summer because that's silly, and in winter if i'm wearing one and get warm, i take it off (i'm wearing a shirt underneath obvs).

I don't think it's because they absorb sweat, but because they can make you sweat. I've always thought of it more as an old timey, 1920's term. The same way they'd call a dancer a hoofer or a mouth a kisser
 
Oh, well, I'm glad you asked me, JT. Not sure why they're called what they're called, but, here you go:

A jumper.
A sweater, jumper, pullover or jersey is a knit garment intended to cover the torso and arms, popular with both men and women, and children of all ages.[1] It is often worn over a shirt, blouse, T-shirt, or other top, but may also be worn alone as a top. Sweaters tend to be, and in earlier times always were, made from wool; however, they can be made of cotton, synthetic fibers, or some combination thereof. Sweaters are maintained by washing, and the use of a lint roller.
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1 Types and design
2 Sweater
3 Nomenclature
4 Customary wear
5 Ice hockey
6 Sweatshirts
7 See also
8 References
9 External links
[edit]Types and design



"Hot dog" Sweater
The term "sweater" is a catch-all for various types of knit garments. A fundamental division is between a cardigan (which opens in front) and a pullover (which does not). If the sweater has no sleeves, it is generally called a sweater vest or tank top, or, in the UK, very commonly a "sleeveless pullover" which will very usually have a V neck and can be worn semi-formally; in UK parlance such a sleeveless garment would only be called a "tank top" if it had a square or scooped neck and a generally juvenile appearance.; a "vest" in British English refers to the same item as "undershirt" in American English.
A garment of this type was originally named a sweater either because it was designed to absorb sweat,[citation needed] or the garment was designed to promote a sweat during exercise. It has now become a household name, and other styles of garment (as named above) have kept the original term.
[edit]Sweater

Even within these groups, there is a great variety of design. All the various types of necklines are found, although the V-neck, turtleneck and the crew neck are the most popular. The waistline is typically at hip height, but can vary significantly. A typical sweater for woman is waist length, worn without any undershirt and slightly overlapping the waist of the pants or skirt. In contrast to the more "skin revealing tops" for women that can be seen today, the sweater remains a conservative garment. A normal waist-length sweater, worn alone, will only show the arms if short sleeved. Although some sweaters are cropped by design and expose the midriff (in more modern styles), the hip height sweater is modest, typically only revealing a slight amount of skin in the back, near the waist, if the wearer is sitting or bending. The sleeve length is likewise variable, ranging from small cap sleeves to short sleeves to three-quarter sleeves to full-length sleeves. The front seam of a cardigan allows for further possibilities, such as a surplice or a bolero jacket. All the hems may have various types of borders, such as picots, ribbing and frills. A woman's cardigan can be worn in a variety of ways. Most popular is a layer look with the cardigan over a short sleeve or sleeveless waist length sweater called a "shell". Some cardigans can simply be worn alone with just a bra underneath, if the buttons go from neckline to the bottom hem.
One advantage of sweaters is that they conform well to the body without requiring the tailoring as woven garments. For example, shaping such as darts, flares and gores — commonly found in woven blouses, a comparable garment — are rarely needed in sweaters, thanks to the elasticity and drape of knitted fabrics. Even when such shaping is needed, it can be knit into the fabric itself, without requiring seams. However, this very elasticity makes it necessary to use more care when washing.
[edit]Nomenclature

A sweater with an open front fastened by buttons is called a cardigan. A hockey sweater was, in the early days of ice hockey, recognisable as what people in the 2000s would call a sweater, but has since evolved into a sort of jersey. Thus, in modern-day North American usage, the shirt of an ice-hockey player's uniform is traditionally called a sweater, regardless of the style.
In British English, a sweater is called a jersey, pullover or jumper, the last two terms being the most common name in British English and Australian English. In South African English, a sweater is always called a jersey. Sleeveless pullovers are known in American English and Australian English as vests or sweater vests. In British English they are known as tank tops or slipovers.
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Seaman's jumper, woolen, hand-knitted.
Thin sweaters may be worn tucked in to the waistband of trousers; but otherwise, men's sweaters are to be worn untucked. Nonetheless, some individuals, including some television and film actors, have been known for wearing tucked-in sweaters.[2]
Sweaters are a versatile item of clothing and can be worn on top of almost any outfit. Sports sweaters, especially hoodies, are often worn on tops of sports kit while traveling to or from a sports ground. Sweaters can be worn with a dress shirt underneath (and optionally a tie), which has the advantage of allowing the wearer to have the option of removing the sweater when it is uncomfortably warm and still looking presentable in many situations. Layering and the ease with which it allows for temperature regulation is a major beneift of the sweater as an article of clothing. Various methods have evolved for conveniently carrying a sweater, once removed. The three most common approaches are: around the waist (either loin cloth, or knotted in front style) and over the shoulder. The origin of these styles are unknown, although the "knotted in front" style is widely agreed to have been developed in Miami, Florida in the mid 1970s.
In the late 20th century the sweater increasingly came to be worn as an alternative to a shirt when finer materials made them more comfortable next to the skin.
Some women's sweaters are meant to be worn belted; a belt or drawstring is sometimes knitted into the sweater itself. Leggings are commonly worn with long sweaters or sweater dresses.
[edit]Ice hockey

The uniforms that present day ice hockey players wear are sometimes referred to as "sweaters", although they more closely resemble the jerseys worn in other sports. This is because original uniforms were simply sweaters with the team's logo stitched on the front. However, as technology changed, so did the uniforms as actual sweaters absorbed too much moisture and became weighed down and bulky throughout the course of a game.
[edit]Sweatshirts

Commonly confused for sweaters, sweatshirts are a subset of long-sleeved torso wear that is similar to a sweater, but different. The main differences lie in the materials used, and the purpose or level of attire the styles of garments are associated with. The sweatshirt is a ubiquitous part of youth culture and counterculture, easily found among hipsters or young adults. Sweatshirts may or may not have a zipper, while sweaters always do not[citation needed]. Sweatshirts are usually made from cotton, polyester, or other relatively low-cost materials, while sweaters are made traditionally from wool, fleece, or other softer, more natural textiles.
 
It took me this long to get used to the who's version of summertime blues, but I dare someone to point me towards a non-kickass cover of that song. Random YouTube people in their bedrooms don't count.
 
Beer makes Perry Mason even better. And it compresses the plot.

Does it make photo taking more difficult?

As long as scientists don't open a portal to hell on Mars, I guess I'm ok with their rover landings.
 
Yes, it's a fine place to start. "First Wave Intact" is about a good an introduction as one can hope for. It's probably one of my favorite album openers.

Firrrrrst waaaave doooooooown

I listened to that song a few days ago while jogging. 'Twas enjoyable.

Heard Here I Dreamt I was an Architect on radio this morning. I lived The Decemberists recent albums quite a bit, but there's something about those first 3 that's still really special to me. Love those things.
 
Morrissey hates even more things than IWB.

I am unable to watch the Olympics due to the blustering jingoism that drenches the event. Has England ever been quite so foul with patriotism? The "dazzling royals" have, quite naturally, hi-jacked the Olympics for their own empirical needs, and no oppositional voice is allowed in the free press. It is lethal to witness. As London is suddenly promoted as a super-wealth brand, the England outside London shivers beneath cutbacks, tight circumstances and economic disasters. Meanwhile the British media present 24-hour coverage of the "dazzling royals", laughing as they lavishly spend, as if such coverage is certain to make British society feel fully whole. In 2012, the British public is evidently assumed to be undersized pigmies, scarcely able to formulate thought.

As I recently drove through Greece I noticed repeated graffiti seemingly everywhere on every available wall. In large blue letters it said WAKE UP WAKE UP. It could almost have been written with the British public in mind, because although the spirit of 1939 Germany now pervades throughout media-brand Britain, the 2013 grotesque inevitability of Lord and Lady Beckham (with Sir Jamie Horrible close at heel) is, believe me, a fate worse than life. WAKE UP WAKE UP.

http://true-to-you.net/morrissey_news_120804_01
 
My Whole Love LP I ordered for $5 from Fab was delivered on my lunch break so I'm giving it a spin. "One Sunday Morning" is an extended version and holy smokes it's hot hot hot.

I'm glad to send anyone an invite for Fab too. Really cool daily design sales on the cheap. Can't beat $5 for a $28 record.
 
I am unable to watch the Olympics due to the blustering jingoism that drenches the event. Has England ever been quite so foul with patriotism? The "dazzling royals" have, quite naturally, hi-jacked the Olympics for their own empirical needs, and no oppositional voice is allowed in the free press. It is lethal to witness. As London is suddenly promoted as a super-wealth brand, the England outside London shivers beneath cutbacks, tight circumstances and economic disasters.

He is absolutely right about this, though.
 
Yeah, I don't have any problems with his opinions on the subject. That said, I can still definitely watch the Olympics.
 
It seemed fine until the 1939 Germany comparison. He kinda blew it there. That was truly moronic.

Highlight of that Olympics opening was hearing Sex Pistols' God Save the Queen, with good old Elizabeth innocently clapping to it.
 
She may not be as ignorant as you might think.

I don't think she's necessarily ignorant, but I do believe she was bored many times during that ceremony to pay attention. At least I was.
 
Is it weird that the first thing I thought of listening to "Snoop Lion"'s single is Ras Trent?

Anyways, only made it about 60 to 90 seconds into the song. Blah.
 
My Whole Love LP I ordered for $5 from Fab was delivered on my lunch break so I'm giving it a spin. "One Sunday Morning" is an extended version and holy smokes it's hot hot hot.

I'm glad to send anyone an invite for Fab too. Really cool daily design sales on the cheap. Can't beat $5 for a $28 record.

I'm an avid Fabber but I haven't been paying attention to the sales the last few weeks so I missed this sale. What was the name of the store? My only problem with Fab is that sometimes it takes weeks for an item to ship.
 
joyfulgirl said:
I'm an avid Fabber but I haven't been paying attention to the sales the last few weeks so I missed this sale. What was the name of the store? My only problem with Fab is that sometimes it takes weeks for an item to ship.

It was excess stock from Wilco's online shop.
 
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