TheBrazilianFly
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^ I guess with you it's all down hill from here now, uh? Awesome! I must be a horrible loser. I'm failing and losing miserably so much you even had to point it out for me!
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TheBrazilianFly said:
mikal said:but he's singing about his own father. everyone deals with death differently. so how could this be distasteful? and who are we to make that decision?
mikal said:
very true that the heartbeat and flatline is used to emotionally connect with the audience. there's no denying that. remember, Bono is a man who's every action(besides going to the bathroom, blowing his nose, and maybe sleeping) is amplified. he lives his life in front of people. unfortunately, he doesn't have the chance to have the privacy most of us have while dealing with personal issues. maybe he wants the heartbeat and flatline to emotionally connect him to the audience because that's part of his healing process.
neutral said:
Well I must say U2@NYC that I could drink your blood after a discussion we had some months ago about bootlegs and newbies but I couldn't agree with you more than this...cheersU2@NYC said:As I mentioned before, and with the caveat that I have not seen the flatline live (and that I might change my mind if they ever bring the flatline back to the third leg in the U.S., when I will see them again), I consider this bad taste.
As Mikal pointed out, Bono is singing about his father's death. True. And we shared that. However, there are ways to prove points when you decide to share these feelings with 50,000 people.
Some people may disagree with me, and I am sure Bono does, but a U2 concert is not simply a showcase for Bono to say or do whatever he wants. He has continuously used concerts to convey his ideas or goals and, as long as they do not tamper with people's feelings, and even though I may not always like them (e.g., the use of African flags during 'Streets'), it is ok.
However, my view is that Bono needs to be more careful when dealing with more sensitive issues such as death. Many people in the audience might have recently lost a loved one, and might be trying to get over that and forget it, so there is no need for Bono to shove a flatline in front of all their faces.
In my opinion, SYCIMOYO is powerful enough and proves Bono's point well as it is. Based on what I have seen and geard, the addendum of the flatline seems like an exaggeration.
zwervers2 said:
Well I must say U2@NYC that I could drink your blood after a discussion we had some months ago about bootlegs and newbies but I couldn't agree with you more than this...cheers
U2@NYC said:
After 349 posts you now have all my respect
U2@NYC said:
Some people may disagree with me, and I am sure Bono does, but a U2 concert is not simply a showcase for Bono to say or do whatever he wants. He has continuously used concerts to convey his ideas or goals and, as long as they do not tamper with people's feelings, and even though I may not always like them (e.g., the use of African flags during 'Streets'), it is ok.
However, my view is that Bono needs to be more careful when dealing with more sensitive issues such as death. Many people in the audience might have recently lost a loved one, and might be trying to get over that and forget it, so there is no need for Bono to shove a flatline in front of all their faces.
mikal said:but he's singing about his own father. everyone deals with death differently. so how could this be distasteful? and who are we to make that decision?
Dismantled said:exactly....we have no say in it at all.
Utoo said:
2). The flatline is too graphic & strikes too close to home. -----IMHO, if it takes seeing the picture to get you emotional about the song, I'd say that you haven't listened to the song very well or that you don't think it's a very good song. If you really love the song & what it's about, I personally think hearing it alone--with or without graphics--should stir something up inside you, whatever that feeling may be.