I’ve ALREADY gone over what markets AC/DC can outdraw U2 in in explicit detail on the UK Mix Chart Forum. So since Maloil is excellent at dragging up quotes from my distant past, he won’t have trouble finding the above mentioned because I made them only a few months ago…
Well, when U2 360 and Black Ice tours are completed, we'll see who has the higher gross figures in the markets you mentioned.
Lets also not forget that this is AC/DC's first tour since the year 2000.
And AGAIN, the reason why AC/DC haven't sold out the few stadiums shows that they scheduled in the US this summer, is because they've ALREADY PLAYED the NYC and Boston metro areas...and hence are returning to these markets again. This is called a return engagement. And it's common knowledge that when an artist returns to the same metro area on any given tour, they're going to draw less than their first stop there, unless demand hasn't been met. This return OBVIOUSLY happened on the Black Ice tour, 8-9 months later - which is not nearly a year later. Also, how many shows they performed doesn’t really matter because the fact is they ALREADY PLAYED the NYC & Boston metro areas. And all that happens when you lower the prices, is that the attendances increase, not the GROSS.
Yep, we heard that the first time. But playing
ONE arena show in Boston, is unlikely to prevent AC/DC from selling out a stadium show in Boston nearly a year later. We'll see what the figures look like
IF AC/DC is willing to release them. Unless your going to claim that most of the people who saw
ONE arena show in Boston elected not to see the stadium show a year later, its going to be rather difficult to claim that the reason Boston has not soldout is because of that single arena show back in 2008.
This also brings up another interesting fact. Not only have AC/DC failed to sellout these two stadium shows in the United States, it does not appear that AC/DC has
EVER in the bands 36 year history, soldout a
SINGLE stadium show in the United States, not even in New York City.
The Stones played 40-45 markets on the UK/European legs of their A Bigger Bang tour. That’s what I meant by “FULL TOUR”. Whereas, U2 will have NOT played that many markets in total on the UK/Europeans legs of the 360 tour, once the second UK/European leg is completed next summer - it’ll be roughly 30 markets. That’s a difference of 10-15 markets, which makes a HUGE difference, when strategically increasing demand, like U2 is now doing.
One of the reasons the Stones had to play a larger number of markets on the A Bigger Bang Tour was because there was not enough DEMAND for 2nd dates in many of the major markets.
A Bigger Bang Tour 2nd European Leg had the following results:
Shows: 30
GROSS: $117,272,808
Attendance: 1,056,550
average Gross: $3,909,093
average attendance: 35,218
average ticket price: $111
Despite playing many "NEW FRESH" markets on the 2nd leg, the results are pretty thin for an artist attempting to be the top concert draw.
The only market in Europe where demand was strong enough for the Stones to play two nights in a row was LONDON. Thats it, for both legs. The two Stones shows combined in London only drew about 100,000 people and neither one was soldout. The reason the Stones had no multiple nights in any given market except London was because they LACKED enough demand in any of those markets to play more than one show. The relatively low attendance and lack of sellouts proves that.
And notice how Maloil conveniently ONLY posts the dates from the UK/European legs of the Stones’ A Bigger Bang tour to try and prove his meaningless point and not the dates from their North American legs. This is simply because what he’s trying to get at doesn’t apply here WHATSOEVER.
Thats because your reference was only to the European shows. The Stones did multiple legs of North America as well, with just as much strategic use of dates as U2 are any other artist promoted by Live Nation. Yep, thats right, the same people who promote the Stones also promote U2 and Madonna. Live Nation uses the best strategy for each artist to bring in the most amount of money. If Live Nation could have brought the Stones more money by playing multiple nights in Barcelona, Paris, Amsterdam, Milan etc, they would have booked the Stones that way. They didn't because the Stones did not have enough demand in those markets to play a second night!
