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Old 01-25-2013, 11:28 PM   #61
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I think they were fucking idiots
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Old 01-25-2013, 11:35 PM   #62
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Likewise. I would find it nigh on impossible to accept (and/or respect) everyone's political opinions myself.
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Old 01-25-2013, 11:37 PM   #63
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I guess when M_A said "accept", I took it to mean, "Accept that people are going to believe what they want", not "accept it as a reasonable belief"
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My mistake.
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Old 01-25-2013, 11:40 PM   #65
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Nah, no worries.
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Old 01-25-2013, 11:46 PM   #66
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but I don't like it when an atheist said something to me the other week "Children will believe what they are told from a young age". It may be true in many cases but there are also many cases where children get older and follow their own beliefs. In the context of our conversation I also felt it to be disrespectful towards my mum. She brought me up as a single parent after my dad died a few months before I was born. His comments really upset me. I don't care if Richard Dawkins is his hero, he's not mine!

I respect Dawkins intelligence and atheist views, but compared to my mum he's nothing, so if I have a hero it's my mum. I've watched a few of Dawkins documentaries on TV. I've never read The God Delusion (do I have to), but then I also know of an American cell biologist called Kenneth Miller who says that evolution is true and is compatible with a believe in God (he's a Catholic but I'm not).

I think that some atheists, but not all, can be almost as bad as some religious groups.
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I guess when M_A said "accept", I took it to mean, "Accept that people are going to believe what they want", not "accept it as a reasonable belief"
Correct .
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Old 01-26-2013, 09:08 AM   #68
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Hypothetically, what if the person believed in white supremacism/fascism?
Should you respect it? No.

Should you accept it because chances are that person won't change their beliefs overnight? Might as well.

In the meantime, avoid them as much as possible if they anger you so much.
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Old 01-27-2013, 07:18 AM   #69
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I think that some atheists, but not all, can be almost as bad as some religious groups.
Why should anyone be inherently better or worse? It's all individuals, every single one of them. Whether Christian, Muslim, Jew, Buddhist or Atheist.
Some people will upset you because they have a different opinion about them.
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Old 01-27-2013, 02:21 PM   #70
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I said that you should not ram your opinions down the throats of others. I've known a few atheists but most don't try to force their views on to folks. The same can be said for many religious people
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Exactly, it's about the person, not their beliefs.
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Egyptian mosque turned into house of torture for Christians after Muslim Brotherhood protest | Fox News

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Egyptian mosque turned into house of torture for Christians after Muslim Brotherhood protest

Islamic hard-liners stormed a mosque in suburban Cairo, turning it into torture chamber for Christians who had been demonstrating against the ruling Muslim Brotherhood in the latest case of violent persecution that experts fear will only get worse.

Such stories have become increasingly common as tensions between Egypt’s Muslims and Copts mount, but in the latest case, mosque officials corroborated much of the account and even filed a police report. Demonstrators, some of whom were Muslim, say they were taken from the Muslim Brotherhood headquarters in suburban Cairo to a nearby mosque on Friday and tortured for hours by hard-line militia members.
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Old 03-27-2013, 07:18 PM   #74
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fucking savages
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