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Old 02-23-2018, 01:55 PM   #46
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you were just owned, and i gave you the facts to back it. all you're doing is spouting opinions about "greatest britons" and "saving the world". next thing you'll be telling me he personally flew a spitfire during the blitz.

so anytime you want to have that conversation about winston churchill, let me know sparky. i've probably forgotten more about your military history than you'll ever know.
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sure, except for the simple fact that an invasion of britain during world war II was 100,000% impossible and never would or could have happened.
Yeah. Because "100,000%" impossible is a fact!

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oh that's right. it was churchill personally who did all that, not millions of airmen, sailors, soldiers and civilians from around the world.
This isn't even good rubbish. Surely you can't be this obtuse?

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yea, and i'm "probably" breathing today.
Forget the breathing. Try thinking today.

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Yeah. Because "100,000%" impossible is a fact!
i apologize for using numbers that were too large for you to handle.

but the point remains the same. the idea that the nazis could have successfully invaded, conquered, and occupied britain is fucking laughable. the fact you honestly presented it as a possibility confirms that you have zero clue of what you're on about.

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okay, you've made your point. i take it back. the guys fighting on the front lines and the people getting bombed in their homes weren't the important ones. it was the fat old racist drunk making speeches on the radio and flashing the V-for-victory sign with his fingers that defeated hitler.

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why the hell did you edit your post to add this in? am i supposed to feel insulted that you're apparently laughing at my very common name or something?
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Old 02-23-2018, 02:19 PM   #50
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but the point remains the same. the idea that the nazis could have successfully invaded, conquered, and occupied britain is fucking laughable.
Absolutely. Thank God for Churchill. Glad we agree!

Poor DaveC.

What did Churchill ever do to you give you such a case of the sads?
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i know that you're not actually a stupid person, so you'll have to forgive my confusion as to why you insist on acting like one.
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It's remarkable how people are the same just about everywhere - no one ever wants to give credit or assign positive attributes to anyone they deem 'not on their side'. Dems can never credit Reagan, Repubs the same with Clinton (Bill not Shill).

It is sad, but it is what it is.
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Old 02-23-2018, 02:56 PM   #53
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It's remarkable how people are the same just about everywhere - no one ever wants to give credit or assign positive attributes to anyone they deem 'not on their side'. Dems can never credit Reagan, Repubs the same with Clinton (Bill not Shill).

It is sad, but it is what it is.
I think the three greatest US Presidents of the 20th century were TR, FDR & Reagan. You don't get three people more different in personality and ideology than that. I also think Bill Clinton was a pretty good President (though obviously not transformative in the way that those three were).

Churchill hatred is in vogue because, let's face it, he was a naked imperialist and his views on race weren't exactly progressive.

It should be possible for people to acknowledge that and still recognise the absolutely crucial role he played in rallying a defiant Britain against Hitler's aerial onslaught (no DaveC, I'm not saying Hitler flew the planes himself). To say nothing of Dunkirk. You simply can't dismiss the importance of Churchill's leadership in the early days, before the Americans showed up, in ultimately winning the war. A war which no doubt would have unfolded differently had Britain been appeasing rather than defiant towards Hitler.

Hitler didn't want war with Britain, and he didn't want to invade initially. He just wanted them to roll over, and when they didn't, he unleashed hell on the island (and made plans to invade, Operation Sea Lion). As for it being "100,00% impossible" for Hitler (no, not him personally) to occupy Britain...well, certainly there were logistical challenges, it's true that as things stood in the air war, such an invasion had little chance of success. But that's the point....all of that was because, in large part, Britain had a leader that mobilised his country. Who in parliament was going to do that? Halifax? LOL. And in any event, I'm certain there weren't many people who thought it was "100,000% impossible" that Hitler (not him personally, his army) would or could overrun Europe.

Churchill certainly didn't underestimate Hitler's threat. Had Hitler not had to worry about Britain, who knows what he could have done. To dismiss Churchill's leadership is to dismiss the role of leadership and personality in studying how historical events unfold. Dismissing Churchill's role in saving Britain as nothing but slogans and V symbols , or that he defeated fascism with simply eloquent speeches is like saying Hitler conquered Europe with nothing but speeches at Nuremberg. It's absurd. Leaders matter.

Anyway, this thread has been derailed enough. Back to common sense gun control.
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Wait, Hitler had an army?
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probably a white supremacist.
Let's ask the people of southern Asia to weigh in on that one.
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so anytime you want to have that conversation about winston churchill, let me know sparky. i've probably forgotten more about your military history than you'll ever know.
At least I was claiming that about my own history/political system/one time job
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Trump cannot even handle the sight of blood, and has openly talked about this fact.
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Meanwhile, Alex Jones is begging David Hogg for an interview because YouTube deactivated his account for a second time, and Jones thinks it's because Hogg pointed out that he's called Sandy Hook a false flag.
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