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Old 11-19-2008, 08:58 PM   #91
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just lookie here:

YouTube - OBAMA ON SNL: Live from New York, It's Hillary-Bashing!!!
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Old 11-19-2008, 09:01 PM   #92
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This would be a little easier to take seriously if it wasn't coming from someone who made a point of mocking Hillary at every turn when she was the Democratic frontrunner.
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I like Hillary. In fact, I defended her around here during the primaries, when she was being called a shrill harpy on a very regular basis. But the fact is, she's a very strong woman and politician, and I hardly think an SNL skit was able to do her in. She dishes it out just as well as she can take it. Further, she appeared on SNL long after the skit that you posted aired, so I doubt very much that she bears any grudges, or that she thinks of their commentary or satire as being a detriment to her campaign.

I'm far more interested in hearing your thoughts, than seeing links that you post, or hearing you purport to speak for Hillary. What do you think?
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Old 11-19-2008, 09:13 PM   #94
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i applaud obama winning.

i think the country has officially turned a page.

i only wished that the contest was played more on a level playing field.

had not the economy been in the crapper, and our candidate had all of his bearings, it may have been a more interesting contest.



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Old 11-19-2008, 09:15 PM   #95
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Not exactly. From my paradigm, it could also be said that Obama was at a disadvantage in the beginning.

But maybe you could explain how it seems different to you and Hillary?
The playing field was tilted AGAINST Obama, this just in, he's BLACK!
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Old 11-19-2008, 09:29 PM   #96
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The playing field was tilted AGAINST Obama, this just in, he's BLACK!
Dude, I covered that here:

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The playing field started out mostly level. The only thing McCain had against him is his association with the current administration. But then you could also argue that the playing field wasn't level in Obama's favour. Obama had to overcome several things, too: his race, his experience relative to McCain's, and being an unknown entity, relative to McCain. Obama was able to overcome all this. McCain wasn't able to overcome his negatives. In fact, he added to them. Why? Because of the way both candidates conducted themselves and their campaigns. Obama did well. McCain didn't.

It really is as simple as that.
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Dude, I covered that here:
Some people need to be told more than once, plus you had a lot of words in there for some people, so I simplified it mostly for the right-wingers here.
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Old 11-19-2008, 09:49 PM   #98
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Some people need to be told more than once, plus you had a lot of words in there for some people, so I simplified it mostly for the right-wingers here.


I can get wordy sometimes...
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Old 11-19-2008, 10:02 PM   #99
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I don't know how he can look in the mirror and say he's being honest...

How can he be honest with himself if he doesn't see that poll was dripping with bias, a 4th grader could see that...

How can he be honest if he things the 57 states thing was an issue? It's obvious if you do the math how he misspoke...

How can he be honest if he doesn't recognise the irony of what's being said in this thread up against the backdrop of the Palin rally videos...

If he was honest he would be able to dissect my earlier post when asked of the bias(and I didn't even mention race)...

This person is not being honest, just suffering from Rush induced paranoia...
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What is the big deal with the 57 states thing??? It's not like Obama doesn't know how many states there are. Obviously he was tired or whatever and made a silly mistake. As opposed to Palin who thinks Africa is a country... Hey! The republicans said it, not us evil liberals!
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What is the big deal with the 57 states thing??? It's not like Obama doesn't know how many states there are. Obviously he was tired or whatever and made a silly mistake. As opposed to Palin who thinks Africa is a country... Hey! The republicans said it, not us evil liberals!
No she didn't.
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No she didn't.
She didn't what? Okay maybe she doesn't think that Africa is a country and it was only those campaign officials who wanted to make her look bad. My point is why are some people making a big deal out of the 57 states thing when it was just a slip of the tongue on Obama's part? Do you people seriously believe that he didn't know any better?
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This thread has lost all objectivity. It's quite appalling.
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No she didn't.
You're right apparently the Africa story was made up by a blogger, which interestingly enough was first reported by Fox News...

But let's not kid ourselves Palin made enough remarks on her own that should make us question her knowledge or at the very least her quest for knowledge. The fact that Palin and Bush have been two of the most praised figures in recent conservative history should have some conservatives scratching their heads, if it doesn't then I fear for your party.
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You're right apparently the Africa story was made up by a blogger, which interestingly enough was first reported by Fox News...

But let's not kid ourselves Palin made enough remarks on her own that should make us question her knowledge or at the very least her quest for knowledge. The fact that Palin and Bush have been two of the most praised figures in recent conservative history should have some conservatives scratching their heads, if it doesn't then I fear for your party.
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