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Old 12-23-2008, 09:53 PM   #31
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Australia is arguably more theocratic than the United States, I desire bill of rights that guarantees both freedom of speech and a wall of separation between church and state.
That should tell ppl something.

Futhurmore, the wall that you wish for will never happen as human beings in every culture feel an inherent need or desire to worship someone or something or Being larger then themselves.

There are a few that talk themselves out of worshipping a Higher Power and think they worship nothing, but they are wrong:they worship Evolution or themselves or human figures like Bono, Cher or Bill Maher.

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Old 12-29-2008, 05:57 AM   #33
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On both sides of the Atlantic the statists are getting ready to join in with shutting down a venue of free speech and free expression
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A British cabinet minister says the government is considering a plan to work with President-elect Barack Obama on a new ratings system for Internet Web sites, according to The Telegraph in London. Andy Burnham, above, who is secretary of state for culture, media and sport, said in an interview on Saturday that he hoped to work with Mr. Obama to implement a set of standards for English-language Web sites in order to protect children from inappropriate material. Mr. Burnham spoke favorably of implementing a set of ratings standards similar to the one employed by the Motion Picture Association of America. It would be managed by Internet service providers and restrict children’s access to Web sites without age ratings. Mr. Burnham, who characterized the Internet as “quite a dangerous place,” said about working with the United States: “The change of administration is a big moment. We have got a real opportunity to make common cause.” Alluding to possible criticisms regarding censorship, Mr. Burnham said, “This is not a campaign against free speech, far from it, it is simply there is a wider public interest at stake when it involves harm to other people.”
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In the US tech scene you have weekend "bitchmemes". In the UK, there is a kind of equivalent known as "government minister opens mouth and inserts foot". This weekend it was the turn of Andy Burnham, the secretary of state for the Department of Culture, Media and Sports (DCMS), and as such supposed to take an interest in the Internet. Unfortunately his weekend interview with a newspaper betrayed the simple fact that he knows nothing at all about how the Internet works. Nothing.

Burnham gave an interview to the Daily Telegraph newspaper saying that the UK government is considering "the need for "child safe" websites ? registered with cinema-style age warnings ? to curb access to offensive or damaging online material." There would also be "child-safe" internet services run by ISPs and the "option" of introducing age ratings for websites. "This is an area that is really now coming into full focus," he said. He said some content, such as clips of beheadings, was unacceptable and new standards of decency were needed. He also plans to negotiate with the US on drawing up international rules for English language websites.
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Websites might one day be regulated by government and given movie-style ratings, if an interview given by the Culture Secretary is anything to go by.

Among other issues, Andy Burnham told the Daily Telegraph that he would like to see some restrictions on online freedom of expression, including blocks on certain websites.

Unacceptable sites

He said: "I think there is definitely a case for clearer standards online. You can still view content on the internet which I would say is unacceptable.

"There is content that should just not be available to be viewed. That is my view. Absolutely categorical … there is a wider public interest at stake when it involves harm to other people."

Online libel help

To facilitate the restrictions, Burnham envisages the UK and US working together to come up with guidelines for English-language websites and then legislating to ensure they are policed.

On top of that, he also suggest forcing ISPs to offer services that deliver only child-friendly content in a potted version of the internet, forcing sites like YouTube to remove copyright content quickly and offering legal aid to victims of online defamation.
UK government looking to censor internet | News | TechRadar UK

Would it be illegal to say that these sorts of politicians should be booted from public office?
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