maycocksean
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BVS, why you gotta slap the olive leaf out of the man's hand? I'm not saying you should agree with him, but he seems to be trying to have a civil discussion. Why not accept that?
Caleb8844 said:If the government leaves everyone in "starving, naked servitude" as you so quaintly put it, by butting out, it is implied that the government is needed to supply these things. I'm tired of this debate though, because you just want to argue.
maycocksean said:BVS, why you gotta slap the olive leaf out of the man's hand? I'm not saying you should agree with him, but he seems to be trying to have a civil discussion. Why not accept that?
How was I not civil?
Those right$ are nice but in order to achieve them you need to pay for them via taxation of other profitable enterprises and individuals. If an economic downturn occurs it means you can't pay for the particular right or it has to be reduced to some level recipients don't like it makes that right hard to be inalienable. Maybe the taxpayers should have a right that their money is spent properly and that budgets have to be balanced. If taxes had to go up more often (and sooner) instead of relying on borrowing the public would be more skeptical of benefit increases.
Abolishing the military-industrial complex could make very convincing inroads into that deficit and avoid the need to raise taxes on the hard-pressed working and middle classes.
Such tax increases that are necessary should be concentrated on the upper classes, Wall Street leaches, hospital consultants (the US's are the highest paid in the world, but the health service is ranked only 30th or so) and other wealthy persons and corporations. If compliance is an issue, well, I'm sure there is space left in Gitmo. Why not give the Fed powers to invoke anti-terrorist legislation against wealthy tax evaders, that would help make inroads into the gap.
And, yes, I am being serious.
during Barack Obama's first YEAR: +9%. Extrapolating that for his full term (which is, admittedly, not an extremely accurate practice) would have him increasing the debt percentage by 36%, which is completely unprecedented.
Oh, make no mistake the U.S. is indeed propping up NATO.Abolishing the military industrial complex only makes sense if the coddled Europeans pick up the military slack and spend less on social programs. Seriously, they get military welfare from the U.S. If everyone abolished the military we would soon be taken over by dictatorships so that's not a sane option.
Yeah, good luck with more free-trade with less government spending to re-train workers for information-based jobs, bud. That U.S. manufacturing base sure is devastated after NAFTA allowed all those jobs to cross the border to Mexico. Are we just going to write off anyone as a society who used to work on a production line?The best solution for the U.S. now is low taxes, low government spending, more free-trade
Oh, make no mistake the U.S. is indeed propping up NATO.
That said, you have stuck yourself into a chicken-and-egg dilemma there. The U.S. has made a business out of selling/giving arms to regimes it thinks will allow it to meddle in and mould regional politics around the world. It then ends up having to fight its own assets down the line when they lose the bet on a foreign regime staying in power.
Smaller, more effective forces, limited in size by law against the intelligence community's data on other militaries. That is what will never happen with the U.S military because your local congressman wants a new hovertank factory for his congressional district.
You see it as propping up other nations geopolitically, but other see it as the U.S. having an addiction to getting into long, drawn-out quagmires. Don't kid yourself: Western intervention in Libya has nothing to do with civilian lives, only oil.
Yeah, good luck with more free-trade with less government spending to re-train workers for information-based jobs, bud. That U.S. manufacturing base sure is devastated after NAFTA allowed all those jobs to cross the border to Mexico. Are we just going to write off anyone as a society who used to work on a production line?