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Old 11-05-2008, 10:24 PM   #346
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Was it the real Pat Robertson? Or an imposter?

Or was he smoking reefer?
I don't know. I'm thinking this is some kind of utopian parallel universe, and I love it.
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Old 11-05-2008, 10:31 PM   #347
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My mom's watching Larry King, and Pat Robertson just said Obama is brilliant and has the potential to be one of our greatest presidents. I'm still no fan of Pat, but, wow.
That is called "covering your ass". Pat uses the gov to push his agenda. He needs all the friends he can get right now. I hope Obama issues "Executive Order #1 - STFU Pat Robertson."
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Old 11-05-2008, 10:32 PM   #348
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So, I was over at my grandparents tonight after work, and my grandma was telling me that her 60 year old niece called earlier today to ask who she and my grandpa voted for. My grandpa was on the phone, and he told her they voted for Obama. My grandma's niece than says, "That's wrong. Don't you know that our church says you should vote Republican?" To which my grandpa said, "We don't care what our church says. We vote for the person we feel is best suited to run the country. Just because your husband and kids are all rich doesn't mean the rest of the country is the same way. Millions of people are out of work, can't feed their families, are losing their homes, and have no health care. I've been around almost 86 years, and I know the Republicans won't do a thing to help the middle class and poor." My grandpa rocks.
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ur grandpa does rawk! WTG !! he said it well.
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Old 11-06-2008, 12:04 AM   #350
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"That's wrong. Don't you know that our church says you should vote Republican?"
I don't mean to highlight this statement, but I find it interesting how people can say things like this. Whatever happened to thinking for yourself? It boggles the mind, I tell you.

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Old 11-06-2008, 03:18 AM   #351
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ur grandpa does rawk! WTG !! he said it well.
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Old 11-06-2008, 03:51 AM   #352
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I just read this on another message board and found it so delightful I had to post it here:

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one of my students posted on his facebook twitter that he was moving to canada because he couldn't live under a socialist president
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Old 11-06-2008, 06:40 AM   #353
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Was it the real Pat Robertson? Or an imposter?

Or was he smoking reefer?
I'm not shocked. I watch Morning Joe a lot and have found Pat Robertson to be surprisingly candid. Of course, he has his biases but he calls a spade a spade for the most part.
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Old 11-06-2008, 06:52 AM   #354
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Dan wishes conservatives luck in their move to Canada, which is, ironically, more liberal than the US.

I've had two people mention how much they loved that to me.
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^awesome pfan! love that facebook status.. i think u should keep it for a while.
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I'm not shocked. I watch Morning Joe a lot and have found Pat Robertson to be surprisingly candid. Of course, he has his biases but he calls a spade a spade for the most part.


i think you're thinking of Pat Buchannan.

(i really like Morning Joe, too; love how they ignore Mika Brzezinski and she's often left talking to herself)
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i think you're thinking of Pat Buchannan.

(i really like Morning Joe, too; love how they ignore Mika Brzezinski and she's often left talking to herself)
Yes, I love Morning Joe too. I usually wake up earlier than I have to so I can catch the last hour of it.
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Old 11-06-2008, 10:24 AM   #358
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I'd reply but I'm a bit busy trying to finish my dinner before I go out to fuck and abort this evening.
With this sort of cynicism you only hurt yourself

its all good
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not necessarily...

hopefully the dems will have learned better, from previous experiences.....

and it dpends on who's disappointed.

I mean, Bill CLinton turned out to be more Centrist than I liked in some ways, but he did some really good things- so I stay happy in general that I supported and worked for both of his campaigns.

So I good into this with eyes more open, Obama in some ways being too Centrist for me in some ways, but good, very good in other ways.

I feel as I've stepped into a different America, a better America, from as soon they announced his projected win- especially after McCain's (quite surprisingly) gracious concession speech.
For the very atmosphere of most of the Whole World has altered as we repudiated the policies of Bush & Chenney & McCain's major support of most of Bush's policies espin these past 4 years.
And preveented the even more radical agenda of the Far Religious Christian Right of Sarah Palin's crowd.
yup I agree! Hopefully you're right and american people lost their sensitivity to scare tactics etc...maybe I'm just a bit too pessimistic...
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MichaelMoore.com : Pinch Me ...a message from Michael Moore

Pinch Me ...a message from Michael Moore

Friends,

Who among us is not at a loss for words? Tears pour out. Tears of joy. Tears of relief. A stunning, whopping landslide of hope in a time of deep despair.

In a nation that was founded on genocide and then built on the backs of slaves, it was an unexpected moment, shocking in its simplicity: Barack Obama, a good man, a black man, said he would bring change to Washington, and the majority of the country liked that idea. The racists were present throughout the campaign and in the voting booth. But they are no longer the majority, and we will see their flame of hate fizzle out in our lifetime.

There was another important "first" last night. Never before in our history has an avowed anti-war candidate been elected president during a time of war. I hope President-elect Obama remembers that as he considers expanding the war in Afghanistan. The faith we now have will be lost if he forgets the main issue on which he beat his fellow Dems in the primaries and then a great war hero in the general election: The people of America are tired of war. Sick and tired. And their voice was loud and clear yesterday.

It's been an inexcusable 44 years since a Democrat running for president has received even just 51% of the vote. That's because most Americans haven't really liked the Democrats. They see them as rarely having the guts to get the job done or stand up for the working people they say they support. Well, here's their chance. It has been handed to them, via the voting public, in the form of a man who is not a party hack, not a set-for-life Beltway bureaucrat. Will he now become one of them, or will he force them to be more like him? We pray for the latter.

But today we celebrate this triumph of decency over personal attack, of peace over war, of intelligence over a belief that Adam and Eve rode around on dinosaurs just 6,000 years ago. What will it be like to have a smart president? Science, banished for eight years, will return. Imagine supporting our country's greatest minds as they seek to cure illness, discover new forms of energy, and work to save the planet. I know, pinch me.

We may, just possibly, also see a time of refreshing openness, enlightenment and creativity. The arts and the artists will not be seen as the enemy. Perhaps art will be explored in order to discover the greater truths. When FDR was ushered in with his landslide in 1932, what followed was Frank Capra and Preston Sturgis, Woody Guthrie and John Steinbeck, Dorothea Lange and Orson Welles. All week long I have been inundated with media asking me, "gee, Mike, what will you do now that Bush is gone?" Are they kidding? What will it be like to work and create in an environment that nurtures and supports film and the arts, science and invention, and the freedom to be whatever you want to be? Watch a thousand flowers bloom! We've entered a new era, and if I could sum up our collective first thought of this new era, it is this: Anything Is Possible.

An African American has been elected President of the United States! Anything is possible! We can wrestle our economy out of the hands of the reckless rich and return it to the people. Anything is possible! Every citizen can be guaranteed health care. Anything is possible! We can stop melting the polar ice caps. Anything is possible! Those who have committed war crimes will be brought to justice. Anything is possible.

We really don't have much time. There is big work to do. But this is the week for all of us to revel in this great moment. Be humble about it. Do not treat the Republicans in your life the way they have treated you the past eight years. Show them the grace and goodness that Barack Obama exuded throughout the campaign. Though called every name in the book, he refused to lower himself to the gutter and sling the mud back. Can we follow his example? I know, it will be hard.

I want to thank everyone who gave of their time and resources to make this victory happen. It's been a long road, and huge damage has been done to this great country, not to mention to many of you who have lost your jobs, gone bankrupt from medical bills, or suffered through a loved one being shipped off to Iraq. We will now work to repair this damage, and it won't be easy.

But what a way to start! Barack Hussein Obama, the 44th President of the United States. Wow. Seriously, wow.

Yours,
Michael Moore
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