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You people really, really crack me up.
Smoking is good now, all of a sudden?
You aren't being serious, are you?
You people really, really crack me up.
Smoking is good now, all of a sudden?
Cocaine is to lawyers as steroids are to bodybuilders.
Anti-gaybigotreligious leader to give invocation.
politcs, as usual
( I guess it is a good move )
I just think it's hilarious that you're setting up the law degree as some paragon of virtue. As if law students don't do drugs, don't cheat on exams, don't hand in plagiarized papers, don't apply for jobs with fake grades and degrees, etc?
If Obama is making a mockery of his law degree, then he's fitting right in with how things have always been. And I bet you anything that I still know more lawyers of his era than you do and I don't think he's unique among them either.
But I suppose it's nice that suddenly the law degree seems to imply some kind of special morality that the public has NEVER afforded the profession, LOL!
Ugh is right.
Ugh
Rick Warren will give the invocation at Obama's inauguration. Warren is a man who believes my marriage removes his freedom of speech and cannot say that authorizing torture is a moral failing. Shrewd politics, but if anyone is under any illusion that Obama is interested in advancing gay equality, they should probably sober up now. He won't be as bad as the Clintons (who, among leading Democrats, could?), but pandering to Christianists at his inauguration is a depressing omen. More evidence that a civil rights movement needs to realize that no politician can deliver for us what we have to deliver on our own. - Andrew Sullivan
You people really, really crack me up.
Smoking is good now, all of a sudden?
i am displeased with this.
very displeased.
"The president-elect certainly disagrees with him on [lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender] issues," Douglass said.
Obama has chosen pastor Rick Warren to deliver the invocation at his inaugural. Liberal groups are already up in arms over this choice. It was a brilliant move on Obama's part. By reaching out to a relatively moderate evangelical who has focused on AIDS and world poverty and getting liberals to react angrily (because Warren is antichoice and antigay) Obama has accomplished two things. First, a lot of evangelicals will come to require Obama as not so bad after all, which will surely help him when he actually starts to govern. Second, by getting liberals visibly furious with him before he is even inaugurated, he will be much better able to defend himself against right-wing cries that he is a "liberal" (a pejorative in some circles). The move costs him no political capital at all. Warren gets a few minutes to speak on national TV. He's not going to use it to bash gays if he has any expectation of becoming the new Billy Graham. But later when Obama does controversial things--like pushing for some kind of national health insurance--he can claim to be balanced by saying: "I am a centrist, look, I let Warren speak and I support national health insurance, something for everyone." That is hardly an even trade but it will get him a lot of mileage in the media. Despite what some people may think, Obama is a very clever politician and fully understands that making small gestures to the right, however meaningless, generate good will he will need later. The incident brings to mind Richard Nixon's famous comment: "Watch what we do, not what we say."
If you say so.
there's also no question that Warren is not a hateful, spiteful Dobson-type.
Oh there's a lot of question. I don't think he's that much better than Dobson, based on everything I've heard from him (including likening gay marriage to incest, polygamy and child abuse).
we can agree that his views on gay people belong in the 13th century.
however, he doesn't seem to be as intentionally divisive as past Christianist evangelicals.
That matters very little since the end result is the same. And the fact that you have a lot of people legitimizing him in a way that they would NEVER legitimize past Christian evangelicals for saying the exact same thing (!!) is what makes him so much more dangerous.
i do think that there are worse people out there than Warren
but no one seems to care about gay Americans with AIDS. because this is just retribution for their wicked lifestyle?
The Africans didn't choose to be African.
That's really not a very comforting thought.
I think this is 100% wrong as a decision and I couldn't care less that there may be 500 men who are a level up on the disgusting scale as compared to this guy.
Thankyou for repeating a principled position.That matters very little since the end result is the same. And the fact that you have a lot of people legitimizing him in a way that they would NEVER legitimize past Christian evangelicals for saying the exact same thing (!!) is what makes him so much more dangerous.
How does it feel to be under the bus?
Do you actually think you will get any favours playing meek and mild simply because its your man in charge? It was alright when he opposed gay marriage in the election because it was about electability, do you feel its alright to have him bend over for Christians now he has been elected?
I have to reiterate again, allowing religious groups influence over your political discourse is dangerous. Look at the election, the worst parts were driven by religion being injected into the game, from Obama enjoying support from racist preachers to Palin getting exorcised. By giving evangelicals a helping hand with the expectation they will help out with the political job you are legitimising religious interference in politics, making it a bipartisan position, this will definitely hurt America. You may think that it is alright to co-opt a devout base in the short term, but you are giving the GOP a free pass the next time they get elected; you loose the moral high ground to say a Republic president is too closely aligned with right-wing evangelicals.
Your statements about consciousness raising as a means of getting gay rights are dead on, having more exposure and developing an environment where your average person knows that they have gay family members is a way forward; which isn't served by finding a consensus position with theocrats, and pretending to think its alright. That position is worse than a step backwards.
Feel the love; but remember to abuse Diamond and Nathan for holding identical positions.