BVS
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Let's not break it to them just yet...
My worldview is shattered, BVS .... if that is your real name! (Oh wait ... it's not.)
Aunt Agnes?
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Let's not break it to them just yet...
Aunt Agnes?
Jorinde
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@ Galeongirl: You're saying that to me? What the hell, woman
Galeongirl
Galeonbroad
Pardon? I was adding to what BVS said.
Jorinde
Refugee
OH 'kay, nevermind
theedgeu2
Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid
Who really does thisin real life?
I've tried that but don't do it on a regular basis.
Ok I'm gonna be serious here and
to this. Interwebz is not real life. I suggest to get out there and meet some people and hang out rather than here. I'm not what you'd call a "social butterfly" but I do try to get out whenever I can. Sure it's fun and cool to come here and chat with people who share similar interests but it's not real life. BVS's points are real and true, I just had to screw around with it. 
secretly alone
Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB
The internet may not be "real life"...but it can certainly coincide with real life, I think. Is it not a means of connecting the world, of meeting people? I've met some of my best friends here on this very website...is that not "real"? I think it can go either way. It's easy to be anything on the internet, real or unreal. But the internet has broadened my world beyond the stupid town in which I live, so I can't agree that it isn't at least a part of real life.
Nothing to do with the actual topic of the thread of course...
Nothing to do with the actual topic of the thread of course...
theedgeu2
Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid
Well that's true. Internet can be a great means of connecting. I'm not saying it's bad at all, I just think I'm on the internet/computer a bit more than I should be.
I'm cooped up in the house more than I am out of it, especially during winter. I do try to get out and see movies and do stuff. Anyway I agree with you there about that and there isn't a thing wrong about it. And besides there is nothing, I mean NOTHING, out here where I live. Which is the middle of no where. I guess I'm on the fence about this.
secretly alone
Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB
I used to think people who sat around on the internet were wierdos 
But it's really just the same thing as sitting around talking on the phone...especially now that they have that Skype thing and whatnot. I mean, it depends on how you use the internet. I use it to make friends I could not make by just going about my daily life
As for internet haters though, which were being discussed...that's always a losing situation.
But it's really just the same thing as sitting around talking on the phone...especially now that they have that Skype thing and whatnot. I mean, it depends on how you use the internet. I use it to make friends I could not make by just going about my daily life As for internet haters though, which were being discussed...that's always a losing situation.
Moonlit_Angel
Blue Crack Addict
My face really doesn't look like(it's much worse).
Just popping in to say that somehow I seriously doubt that
. And to give LoveandLogic a
for their post. Very well put. Fascinating discussion *Goes back to sit on sidelines and observe*.
Angela
LoveandLogic
Refugee
Thank you, Angela.
Galeongirl
Galeonbroad
Ofcourse it can coincide with real life. There's a certain real factor to the internet, but it's not the same as REAL life. SUre you can meet people online and become friends, but you'll never know how they 'really' are. Ofcourse plenty of people are exactly the same offline as online, but not everyone is. For me the internet is easier as I'm not that great with social skills, it's easier for me to type than to talk over the phone. I hate talking over the phone because you can't read people's body language. Quite strange how you can't do that over the internet either yet you get a good feeling of someone's mood when they post.
It's a weird phenomenon. But people shouldn't claim that it's the same as real life, as going out with people to have a drink and talk about life, there's no physical touch either. You can't use body language, nor can you hold someone's hand or touch their cheek over the internet. That sort of thing is exclusive to real life.
A stor
Refugee
Annie,
I hope that you don't take my post as any kind of judgement against you. It is not my intention at all. But, if you were my daughter. I would tell you "to enjoy your life." There is nothing wrong with living in a small town or village. Believe me, there are many times that I wish. I did.
I don't think you are a nutcase or have emotional problems. There is nothing dysfunctional with being a "sensitive person." It shows that you have feelings and care very deeply about others. Sweetie, you don't have to be perfect. There is no such thing. You are already the very best at being you.
There comes a time, though. When you don't have to quote or rely on what others have said. You have an intellegent mind and open heart. No doubt about it. Let that aways guide you.
Don't mind if I intrude here for just a split second. I'm not trying to pick on anyone or opinions but...come on. Think about when you were in school. When someone picked on you and you stood up for yourself, it never really made a difference. Those people will pick on you no matter if you made them look like a fool or not. Once someone dislikes you, they dislike you. Nothing you can do about it. Critics are going to pick on Bono. It's a fact. Nothing you can say or do about it because that's what critics use celebrities for. And Bono is a good target more or less. He's smart, he's rich, he's bigger than the world itself and people are intimated by that. He's a rock star who sips tea with politicians. Not something you see everyday.
And like Galeongirl said, if Bono we're to strike back to all his "haters" so to speak, where would he have free time to do anything else? He might as well rent out FOX for a night and give one big long speech! Besides, Bono, and the rest of the guys for that matter, are BETTER THAN THE CRITICS. They don't NEED to sink as low as all those other people. They know that they can't please everyone, just like how we, the "normal" people, know that we can't please everyone. Even Gandhi had his critics.
And in my opinion, if Bono or Edge, Larry, Adam, took time out of their lives to "dis" their critics, I'd be angry! Because they would be going against everything they have taught us, the fans, and that's to be ourselves and dream out loud and "don't let the bastards drag you down". I think Bono has stood up for himself: in his music. No point in making a fool of yourself just because a journalists dislikes you because you're short, old, wear glasses, whatever. Bono knows that his fans adore him.
And as for this whole "left wing" thing, isn't that being a little judgmental? I'm surrounded by both republicans and democrats. I live in one of the most republican states in the US and I have yet to meet ONE person who agrees with Bono. But if I go back to Ohio, or New York, where a lot of democrats are, they LOVE Bono. On the other hand, I've met republicans who like Bono and democrats who hate him. I'm not saying that all democrats love Bono and all republicans hate Bono or vise versa. People are people. They will like who they like and they will hate who they hate. That's the world for you.
Sorry for the rant...
Others said it, but let me add, great post!!
Especially the Republican/Democrat stuff.
Cactus Annie, I see where you are coming from, but its almost completely irrelevant to the liberal/conservative, Democrat/Republican spectrum in the United States. You are talking about authoritarian left wing Marxist types, who exist only on the very fringes of US politics. They are not the guy you see in the coffee shop that could just as likely be a registered Democrat as he is to be a registered Republican.
These left wing authoritarian Marxist types, I have only met/encountered a few of them, you are quite right about. They hate Bono because he is someone who has done a lot for the world's poor (in fact, more than these "true icons of social justice" would ever dream of) and been effective but also happens to be:
A.)Rich
B.)An outspoken defender of capitalism.
B gets to them a hell of a lot more than A, as you correctly pointed out Marx was rich.
Just a word of advise, Annie, and I'm not talking down to you or being condescending, be a bit more specific. I feel that a lot of mainstream US liberals who post here frequently feel like you are saying that they are the kind of people who have an ideological tendency to dislike Bono. And from my reading, you are not saying this at all-"not every dem is a left wing authoritarian"
LoveandLogic
Refugee
Others said it, but let me add, great post!!
Especially the Republican/Democrat stuff.
Cactus Annie, I see where you are coming from, but its almost completely irrelevant to the liberal/conservative, Democrat/Republican spectrum in the United States. You are talking about authoritarian left wing Marxist types, who exist only on the very fringes of US politics. They are not the guy you see in the coffee shop that could just as likely be a registered Democrat as he is to be a registered Republican.
These left wing authoritarian Marxist types, I have only met/encountered a few of them, you are quite right about. They hate Bono because he is someone who has done a lot for the world's poor (in fact, more than these "true icons of social justice" would ever dream of) and been effective but also happens to be:
A.)Rich
B.)An outspoken defender of capitalism.
B gets to them a hell of a lot more than A, as you correctly pointed out Marx was rich.
Just a word of advise, Annie, and I'm not talking down to you or being condescending, be a bit more specific. I feel that a lot of mainstream US liberals who post here frequently feel like you are saying that they are the kind of people who have an ideological tendency to dislike Bono. And from my reading, you are not saying this at all-"not every dem is a left wing authoritarian"
Firstly, thank you for the nice compliment.
Second, I agree. It doesn't matter if a person is Left/Right Wing, if they disagree with Bono, it's going to be because of the reasons you had just stated. His wealth, his outspoken personality and, dare I say, guts. Bono puts his neck in places where just maybe he shouldn't. But he does. And I think that even pisses people off because he's saying what others are thinking or feeling, but not doing. People are intimated by free thinkers. John Lennon was a prime example. And, as others, including myself, has stated: it doesn't matter if people are Democrat/Republican, Black/White/Yellow/Green, Human/Werewolf/Alien, if they disagree with Bono, they're going to disagree with Bono.
And as for A Stor's comment, that was very well put as well.
It's pointless to try to impress every single person, hence the topic of discussion. I've actually agreed and took to heart some of your views, Annie. You're by no means wrong in your opinion because that's exactly what opinions are. 
A stor
Refugee
Thank you
What makes me really sad,are people who just can´t stop themselves showing their hate for the band whenever they can.For example,there was an article posted in news&articles thread about Morleigh speaking out for a first time about Sians struggle with leukemia,and like ordered,comes a comment how crap Edge is and the band are.Haters will hate ,but this is really not the place to do it methinks.
LoveandLogic
Refugee
Aw now that is just low! That's the lowest of the low! 
Talking of an ill child has NOTHING to do with how good/bad a guitarist is. Wow. 
Talking of an ill child has NOTHING to do with how good/bad a guitarist is. Wow. A stor
Refugee
Aw now that is just low! That's the lowest of the low!
I agree and as a parent/grand parent. I would be out of my mind if one of my children or only grandchild was facing a life threatening disease.
And thanks Loner for your post.
DondeEsta
The Fly
is there a link to the comment?
LoveandLogic
Refugee
Wife of U2 guitarist speaks of thier daughter’s leukaemia | The Sun |Showbiz|Bizarre
It wasn't the author of the article that said anything negative, it was the comments posted below. it is a tabloid though. what do you expect. still irritating, though.
It wasn't the author of the article that said anything negative, it was the comments posted below. it is a tabloid though. what do you expect.
still irritating, though.A stor
Refugee
Thanks Love and Logic
11o´clock
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Yeah, that comment in that link had NOTHING to do with the disease ¬¬
europop2005
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from CNN:
OP:
thanks Bono...please meke up your mind either focus on your music or be a polititian .... but then again being Irish that might not be so good either , i dont like your music but would be more than happy to send you a donation just so you can buy a decent pair of shades
Reply #1:
Yes, Bono, leave social justice to the career politicians. They're doing such a great job, anyways. It's such a shame to see other people weigh in on the world's problems.
Reply #2:
He could buy you, your family and your town if he felt like it. He's done more than you and all of your ancestors ever have or will so with all due respect, STFU!
OP:
thanks Bono...please meke up your mind either focus on your music or be a polititian .... but then again being Irish that might not be so good either , i dont like your music but would be more than happy to send you a donation just so you can buy a decent pair of shades
Reply #1:
Yes, Bono, leave social justice to the career politicians. They're doing such a great job, anyways. It's such a shame to see other people weigh in on the world's problems.
Reply #2:
He could buy you, your family and your town if he felt like it. He's done more than you and all of your ancestors ever have or will so with all due respect, STFU!
Galeongirl
Galeonbroad
Politicians doing a great job? Since when?
LoveandLogic
Refugee
Reply #1:
Yes, Bono, leave social justice to the career politicians. They're doing such a great job, anyways. It's such a shame to see other people weigh in on the world's problems.
That's a joke all in it's own.
Reply #2:
He could buy you, your family and your town if he felt like it. He's done more than you and all of your ancestors ever have or will so with all due respect, STFU!
YESSS!!!!!
Yes, Bono, leave social justice to the career politicians. They're doing such a great job, anyways. It's such a shame to see other people weigh in on the world's problems.
That's a joke all in it's own.
Reply #2:
He could buy you, your family and your town if he felt like it. He's done more than you and all of your ancestors ever have or will so with all due respect, STFU!
YESSS!!!!!
LuckyNumber7
Blue Crack Addict
I mean good god say what you'd like about Bono's activism but if that's this person's defense... just... wow lol.
Some people are so incredibly stupid...
Cactus Annie
Refugee
That's exactly what I'm going on about!
I wouldn't trust people like that. If people have different opinions in different places and times then you are rather false. If I post a viewpoint on here then it's because I genuinely believe it. If someone upsets me on here then they have upset me. This is not a separate universe. I don't go home and declare my hatred for U2. This is inconsistant.
Well I think I feel more able to voice my opinions then I can in the outside world. If I said out loud my opinions then a debate can quickly turn into an argument. I love my mum however, you can never disagree or have a debate without it spiraling into an argument and with her not speaking to me for days. I am the type of person who when I see people behave in a certain way, or hold a certain type of ideology, I ask myself - "what leads them to act in such a manner." Online, you also have the advantage of time to edit what you are saying before you post it. "Does what I put there sound right?" "Hold on, if I post this comment it can appear as though I'm being unnecessary rude." Although I don't really consider myself to be inarticulate but when I am trying to discuss a topic with someone who I can tell is taking our discussion the wrong way, I feel tense and thus less likely to point across what I'm trying to say.
Galeongirl
Galeonbroad
That last part of your post makes a lot of sense, but you get hurt by online comments? Then the internet may not be a good place for you. There's quite a lot of randoms out there who will insult you for nothing, especially on places like youtube.
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