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Kicking Milo Yiannopoulos' ass is something we should all promote as reasonable human beings.
Anyone wanna take a crack at defending this, or at defending the legions who *did* take a crack at defending this?
Kicking Milo Yiannopoulos' ass is something we should all promote as reasonable human beings.
Point me in the direction of a story that has more to do with political correctness than a story in which an invited speaker is threatened with violence because of his political views, while security stands idly by.
I actually don't have any ill will toward the principles of BLM - I backed nearly every point they made in their infancy. But the stifling of dissenting opinions on college campuses is getting out of hand, and we really can't afford to make this a Left vs. Right (or white vs. black, for that matter) issue.
And yes, we can all play the "find something outrageous on the Internet" game. However, it isn't anywhere close to honest to say this is a universally agreed upon outrageous incident. Several university departments have supported the actions of the students, and professors have resigned over his mere presence at the school.
So I'll admit I didn't watch the whole clip, truth is most of what Breitbart posts and twists I can't waste my time on.
I didn't see any violence in the sections I viewed, was there any?
I hate that Breitbart and now his viewers and commenters make every move that a black person does into a "BLM" movement. Did these protestors id themselves as part?
Ultimately the question is about the security, at what point do you stop free speech? Right?
Oh, and I loved the part that a bunch of white college kids started chanting "get a job", lol
I do have a bit of a soft spot for Yiannoppoulos, though, I can't deny this.
I'm baffled as to how any half-reasonable person could, honestly. At best he's an amusing cartoon character for wannabe edgy 15 year olds.
At first glance, it's completely understandable to conclude that this man is the devil. But if people take the time to look further into his views than the attention-whoring sound bytes, it becomes obvious that somewhere near 90% of it is completely tongue in cheek.
Plus, it's hard not to root for the other team when you've got people continuously trying to silence him
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He's a professional asshole. In no way is that admirable
Here's where we disagree. To varying degrees, I see the value in cultural rabble rousers. From the communists of the 60s, to the punks of the 70s, to our current anti-PC crowds -- there's something to be gained from subverting the popular culture of the time, even if people believe that the popular culture is generally good.
With no counter cultural movements, the slope toward an echo chamber can become quite steep.
Plus, it's hard not to root for the other team when you've got people continuously trying to silence him
The difference is that those movements aimed their subversion up, they were attacking the dominant power structure. Milo aims down, at women, black people, trans people, and other people who are victimized by the dominant power structure. He's not subversive, he's reinforcing dominant power structures and calling it subversive.
But at the same time, I also think people need to learn the difference between actually being legit silenced and simply being criticized/yelled at for saying something that rubbed people the wrong way. The former is actual censorship. The latter is not. People can say whatever they want, I won't argue that one bit. But they also need to be prepared for the possibility that somebody may react badly to what they said, and may call them out for it. Especially if what the person said is something that is knowingly ignorant or wrong.
this, I fucking agree with.
I'M SORRY I THOUGHT THIS WAS AMERICA
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Yeah, there should be a discussion over standardised testing.
Cause Murcia.