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Why thank you.
Also, I'd like to add: Those who wish to thank me for my contribution to herd immunity (I *hate* needles ) I accept gifts...and chocolate.
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A warning that the new swine flu jab is linked to a deadly nerve disease has been sent by the Government to senior neurologists in a confidential letter.
The letter from the Health Protection Agency, the official body that oversees public health, has been leaked to The Mail on Sunday, leading to demands to know why the information has not been given to the public before the vaccination of millions of people, including children, begins.
It tells the neurologists that they must be alert for an increase in a brain disorder called Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS), which could be triggered by the vaccine.
GBS attacks the lining of the nerves, causing paralysis and inability to breathe, and can be fatal.
The letter, sent to about 600 neurologists on July 29, is the first sign that there is concern at the highest levels that the vaccine itself could cause serious complications.
It refers to the use of a similar swine flu vaccine in the United States in 1976 when:
* More people died from the vaccination than from swine flu.
* 500 cases of GBS were detected.
* The vaccine may have increased the risk of contracting GBS by eight times.
* The vaccine was withdrawn after just ten weeks when the link with GBS became clear.
* The US Government was forced to pay out millions of dollars to those affected.
Concerns have already been raised that the new vaccine has not been sufficiently tested and that the effects, especially on children, are unknown.
Up to a third of nurses will say no to the swine flu jab because of concerns over its safety, a poll has found.
NHS workers are first in line for the vaccine, but a survey of 1,500 nurses found many will reject it.
Last night a Government scientist condemned the results saying nurses who do not have the jab are putting patients at risk.
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Nevertheless the poll, by Nursing Times magazine, will raise questions over the Government's planned mass vaccination programme.
Of 1,500 readers, 30 per cent would not say yes to the vaccine, while 33 per cent said maybe. Just 37 per cent said they would definitely have the jab.
Of those who said they would refuse the jab, 60 per cent said their main reason was concern about the safety of the vaccine.
A further 31 per cent said they did not consider the risks to their health from swine flu to be great enough, while 9 per cent thought they would not be able to take time off work to get immunised.
Some 91 per cent described themselves as frontline nurses.
One told the magazine: 'I would not be willing to put myself at risk of unknown long-term effects to facilitate a short-term solution.'
Another added: 'I have yet to be convinced there is a genuine health risk and it's not just Government propaganda.'
But Professor David Salisbury, the Department of Health's director of immunisation, reckoned it was unfortunate nurses would 'knowingly leave themselves at risk'.
He added: 'They have a duty to their patients and they have a duty to their families. I think you solve those responsibilities by being vaccinated.'
And Chief Nursing Officer Christine Beasley insisted: 'Frontline nurses will be absolutely crucial in the height of a pandemic without them, patient care will suffer and the NHS will be stretched.
'Getting the vaccine will protect nurses and their patients. That's why we're offering frontline nurses the vaccine as a top priority.'
The jab, currently being fast tracked, will not be fully tested before it is administered.
There will be no tests at all carried out on children under three, even though babies and children at high risk will be among the first to get the vaccine.
There are also concerns the jab can cause Guillain Barre Syndrome, which can lead to paralysis and even death.
A mass swine flu vaccination in the U.S. in 1976 caused far more deaths than the disease it was designed to combat and the Health Protection Agency watchdog has asked doctors to be on the lookout for cases of GBS.
Last week Chief Medical Officer Sir Liam Donaldson announced the jab will be given to high-risk groups with asthma or diabetes, as well as health workers.
Some 14million will be covered by the first wave of the vaccination programme.
my family and i have had some pretty bad experiences with them in the past.
As long as pretty bad = still alive then I don't see the problem.
i guess permanent scars that were unnecessary are no big deal. and unnecessary medications turning family members into nutcases and ruining family relationships....
If we are still talking about reactions to vaccines (which is what I was referring to), then it seems some sort of scarring and needing medications would fall under the umbrella of a "medical reason" not to receive a certain vaccine.
I got a Yellow Fever vaccine and holy shit I thought I was losing my mind for 12 hours but hey what's 12 hours of sweats and hallucinations compared to actually having Yellow Fever?
and also the recommended vaccines for when I went to Africa (Yellow Fever, Hep A, and Typhoid; already had MMR, tetanus, and Hep B;
I have never been sick in over 28 years and never been to a hospital.
I never had a flu vaccine or taken a pill for anything except for a tooth ache or a slight runny nose in winter time due to the chilly weather outside.
Never been sick.
My secret?
Orange juice.
Drink lots of it at lunch time and dinner.
On weekends I drink beer in the pub with me friends.
No wine or whiskey... except at special dinner parties.
Just Orange Juice and you will be safe
At Dr. recommendation, I did not get the HPV vaccine when that came out but if I had a young daughter, she would get it.
I have never been sick in over 28 years and never been to a hospital.
I never had a flu vaccine or taken a pill for anything except for a tooth ache or a slight runny nose in winter time due to the chilly weather outside.
Never been sick.
My secret?
Orange juice.
Drink lots of it at lunch time and dinner.
On weekends I drink beer in the pub with me friends.
No wine or whiskey... except at special dinner parties.
Just Orange Juice and you will be safe
I won't make a decision one way or the other based on .com articles on the 'net. If I had a young daughter it would be discussed with Dr's. Sort of my point in this whole thread...I personally do not feel qualified to make these decisions on my own, and if I had reason to doubt my Dr or have concern for my health, then I'd find a new one.
they really seem to be pushing these swine flu vaccines. even though it's less severe than the normal flu and the vaccines havent been tested enough and there are multiple reports of them causing more harm than good. yet, we are supposed to be scared shitless of swine flu and rush out as soon as possible to get the shot.
sounds a bit "fishy" to me. maybe i should report it to the whitehouse.