corianderstem
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All right, uncle. I'm watching the Eastwood speech.
What in goodness gracious' sake is this?
What in goodness gracious' sake is this?
corianderstem said:All right, uncle. I'm watching the Eastwood speech.
What in goodness gracious' sake is this?
Moonlit_Angel said:Jon Huntsman was just interviewed on Colbert's show.
Why can't he be the face of the GOP? I'd listen to him.
It's making me a little sad for Mr. Eastwood. I don't want to assume that age is taking its toll*, but that's kind of how he's coming across.
i think lots of old white men who watch Fox News spend their days arguing with an invisible Obama.
we get that in here, even.
i think lots of old white men who watch Fox News spend their days arguing with an invisible Obama.
we get that in here, even.
I guess I have a different perspective to most on here. Based on that speech, Romney is looking electable to me. He needs to provide more meat around the jobs plan. Hopefully that will come in time.
The reason I don't see Romney being elected is that he does not seem to have any firm message aside from being anti-Obama. In that sense, this election reminds me quite a bit of 2004, when the Democrats trotted out a compromise candidate about whom next to no one was excited and who ran on a predominantly anti-Bush platform.
Like Kerry, Romney seems much more intent on telling voters what he will not do rather than what he will do, and for that reason I expect the same result as 2004: a vulnerable incumbent nonetheless winning the election. Really the best bet that the Republicans had was flipping the ticket so that Ryan became the candidate, but of course that would never have happened.
omg, you're such an artist! how deft! keep it up.
I'm amazed an actual candidate for president didn't mention the war we're currently fighting.
Nor did his #2.
How do you not talk about that?
I think you and I watched different speeches. Granted he was a little more soft in his approach compared to others in his party, but he went way beyond criticizing his 'skillset'.financeguy said:The vibe seemed to me to be: "We all wanted to believe in Obama's message, but, more in sorrow than anger we now have to acknowledge he doesn't have the skillset to get America back to work."
I feel like maybe there's a lost in translation with how the Irish media is covering this campaign, or maybe it's just the outlets you choose but you are very far off on your assessment. There was definitely a muted response compared to other speakers, and that doesn't bode well when #2 or people not even on the ticket can easily upstage you. And liberal leanings? Have you not noticed how much effort he's made to deny that part of his past?financeguy said:I think those talking about the muted response to the speech in the conference centre totally misunderstand the purpose of that speech - and, arguably, the nature of the type of candidate he is. He's a business-friendly centrist conservative with some liberal leanings - and that is potentially a vote winning stance in 2012, or most election years for that matter. It probably wouldn't have been in 2008, but it was hard to see the Republicans winning in 2008 with any candidate.
But surely it's clever positioning.
I think those talking about the muted response to the speech in the conference centre totally misunderstand the purpose of that speech - and, arguably, the nature of the type of candidate he is. He's a business-friendly centrist conservative with some liberal leanings - and that is potentially a vote winning stance in 2012, or most election years for that matter.
I think you and I watched different speeches. Granted he was a little more soft in his approach compared to others in his party, but he went way beyond criticizing his 'skillset'.
I feel like maybe there's a lost in translation with how the Irish media is covering this campaign, or maybe it's just the outlets you choose but you are very far off on your assessment. There was definitely a muted response compared to other speakers, and that doesn't bode well when #2 or people not even on the ticket can easily upstage you. And liberal leanings? Have you not noticed how much effort he's made to deny that part of his past?
And liberal leanings? Have you not noticed how much effort he's made to deny that part of his past?
Von Schloopen said:I'm amazed an actual candidate for president didn't mention the war we're currently fighting.
Nor did his #2.
How do you not talk about that?
I'd be shocked actually. I don't think Romney or the GOP in general are brave enough or confident enough to lose hold of their base in order to win independents.financeguy said:Pre-nomination, yes. Don't be surprised if there is less denial of his liberal leanings from here on.
financeguy said:Pre-nomination, yes. Don't be surprised if there is less denial of his liberal leanings from here on.
I agree with you that that is how the party is presenting him, but the question is this, I think: is the image of a competent, nice guy, even if presented immaculately, enough to win him the election? Will he inspire enough trust in those with voter apathy or malaise - which is a coveted demographic - to get off the couch and cast a vote for him? He still seems to be lacking that edge, which has been one of the major knocks on him since day one, and I'm thinking it is getting too late for him to find it.