Ah. Well, it didn't give much away musically. Just a shot of Eno at his keyboard with headphones on, going at it.
god i hope you're being sarcastic.
I wasn't
God, you don't like EAA? It's the third best song from Passengers... maybe fourth
Length doesn't determine value.
I don't hate EAA, but it just doesn't compare to the best of OS1... YBR, Slug, Beach Sequence, Corpse, Miss Sarajevo are all legitimate U2 classics, in my opinion. And that's being conservative.
I wasn't
God, you don't like EAA? It's the third best song from Passengers... maybe fourth
hahaha. i like it a lot more now than i used to, but it's still the weakest song on passengers.
which means i prefer it over atylcb and htdaab, lol.
Passengers never quite "did it for me". I guess I just didn't quite get it.
Take this seriously then...
i cant believe this thread is in page 15.
They wrote some music. We will listen to said music.
We get 53 minutes of it. Thats better than 0 minutes of it. Bono said it is long, and by modern convention for album lengths, and song lengths, the album is huge.
How this got to 15 pages baffles me.
If you are seriously complaining that we only get 53 minutes i feel REALLY sorry for you, because your life must be so hollow and empty to have absolutely nothing else in it.
Grow. The. Fuck. Up
Well, well, well. Weren't you the one chiding me a few weeks back about how I had nothing positive to say and didn't respect people on this forum? This guy opens up a thought that actually some of us U2 fans think is relevant, but since it's not sing-songy or worshipping everything that is U2, apparently it's childish and pointless. How about this:
Someone who stalks message boards to find anyone who says something about U2 that they don't agree with and then follows it with your above post must have a life that is so hollow and empty to have absolutely nothing else in it.
So it has to be either or?
Everyone who's reviewed the album pretty much says Boots is one of the weaker tracks, plus NO it doesn't point towards the Vertigo direction... when will people actually start listening to the song?
Well, well, well. Weren't you the one chiding me a few weeks back about how I had nothing positive to say and didn't respect people on this forum? This guy opens up a thought that actually some of us U2 fans think is relevant, but since it's not sing-songy or worshipping everything that is U2, apparently it's childish and pointless. How about this:
Someone who stalks message boards to find anyone who says something about U2 that they don't agree with and then follows it with your above post must have a life that is so hollow and empty to have absolutely nothing else in it.
Why don't you try and explain how him calling Bono a liar is relevant, I would love to hear this...
Well, well, well. Weren't you the one chiding me a few weeks back about how I had nothing positive to say and didn't respect people on this forum? This guy opens up a thought that actually some of us U2 fans think is relevant, but since it's not sing-songy or worshipping everything that is U2, apparently it's childish and pointless. How about this:
Someone who stalks message boards to find anyone who says something about U2 that they don't agree with and then follows it with your above post must have a life that is so hollow and empty to have absolutely nothing else in it.
Yeah... I guess we don't agree in most things.
Maybe they are just too self-conscious about what they wrote so they took 10 to Eno and said make this sound radio friendly.
Well you haven't heard the album, the folks writing the reviews have, so that's what I was basing that comment on. Numb was by far the weakest track, didn't stop them from making it a single, because it worked as a single. Same with Disco(well it may have been superior to Miami but that's about it)...1. I highly disagree that GOYB is a weaker track. No way do they take a 5 year hiatus, write 40 songs, then say, gee, let's give the world the most sub-par of what we have written. Funny how the song most of you were going nuts over and bashing people like me for having an independent opinion is now simply a "weak" track.
2. YES, the song does point to Vertigo - a one-dimensional song lead by a simple, repetitive guitar riff, Bono talking instead of singing like he's out of breath, short, very commercial, self-conscious sounding. If the rest of the album is like GOYB, I guarantee you're gonna get HTDAAB II and nothing mind-shattering like all of you claimed GOYB symbolized.
music is subjective, crazy that!
It's relevant to us in a number of ways:
1. It is another blatant example of how over the launch of the past 3 albums, Bono has gone on about how they're doing something revolutionary, changing it up, using all this hyperbole, acting like they're doing something so different and trend-setting like Achtung Baby or Kid A, and instead, when push comes to shove, we get an over-produced, short, self-conscious collection of songs. There was a time when U2 put out ENTIRE ALBUMS and weren't worried about pop-friendly, radio songs. Ever since POP, they've been so worried about being themselves that they take what they write and overwork it to death. The U2 of the early 90's would have put out Native Son, or Mercy, or Smile, or the original ABOY. The U2 of the 80's certainly would not be releasing GOYB.
2. Length matters when you also consider how they've gone on about how creative they've been, reaching the "vein" or "mine" of musical sounds and ideas, and that's why it's taken them so long to produce an album. Now we get a 50 minute album with 10 songs and you gotta wonder, gee, maybe they're full of shite. Maybe they were just plain lazy or wrote 40 terrible songs and weren't sure what to do with them. Maybe they are just too self-conscious about what they wrote so they took 10 to Eno and said make this sound radio friendly. Whatever you want to consider, it is relevant considering it's been 5 years, they wrote 40 songs, and we get 10 at 50 minutes when Bono went on about it being long. It is worth noting.
Before you go making accusations against someone that is pretty well liked and respected on the board, maybe you should ask yourself if maybe your negative posts and the fact that you have a small post count might be giving people the false impression that you are simply trying to rile people up. Maybe we are misjudging you because we haven't gotten to know you quite yet. I don't think Dan's main goal in his life is to prey on those who don't like everything U2.
It probably was me, because the cap seems to fit you pretty well.
I wouldn't exactly describe my behaviour as stalking given the 1000's of positive things I have said on a board FOR U2 FANS. Stalkers are generally those who lurk silently, only cropping up to post negative shit for a bit of a rant, say 47 times in 4 and a half years?
I don't care what anyone has to say that is constructively negative. But this is schoolyard shit. Awww Bobo said it was long...... cry fucking cry.
It is long, its juts not uber-headfuck70minutesmostofwhichisfillerstupidlong. If you guys dont think 53 minutes is a long album these days, you've got no fucking idea.
So yeah, I dont think my comment was out of line given the amount of overly-negative, bitchy for the sake of being bitchy shit that is being flung from pillar-to-post on this forum.
If you want to be constructive, there are ways to go about it. Starting a stupid thread about "Bobo lied to us, fuck him" on a U2 message board is designed to get backlash.
You guys should start a mutual masturbation thread in another forum and talk about the good-old-days in private
Again, your post speaks for itself. Compared to what you spewed forth 2 weeks ago at me, this makes it clear:
hypocrite - a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings.
I didn't make any accusations, read the guy's original post, it speaks for itself. His comments had nothing to do with what I had to say. It is funny you mention post count b/c that really is the root of all of this. The people on this board act like since they have thousands of post counts on here, they own this public forum and can control what other people want to talk about or how other people should think. Also, no one with 34 posts could possibly know anything about U2 right? (gasp)
I am a huge U2 fan, most of my friends call me psychotic about the band. I don't post on here much b/c of the sheer arrogance that oozes from alot of the posters. I have never seen such a close-minded group of fans regarding the very same thing they all like. Penn State fans aren't like this about their football team, either are Steelers' fans. No wonder so many casual people can't stand U2, they probably get raked over the coals by half the members on this board on a day-to-day basis.
Bottom line, I should be allowed to be unhappy with something U2 produces and discuss it with other fans who feel the same way, or question or debate with other fans why they feel differently.
Lastly, too many people on here are the thought police, including some of the admins. The whole, "this topic was remotely discussed, you can't discuss it again." Or - "Why are you discussing this, this is not relevant, why isn't this thread closed yet, etc." I've read many people's comments on atu2.com that echo the same sentiment. This forum is awesome as far as the U2 fandom that is on it. I just wish that people weren't so anal about discussion, it really destroys any chance of really connecting with U2 fans when you really can't do it at work or day-to-day with busy lives.
It's relevant to us in a number of ways:
1. It is another blatant example of how over the launch of the past 3 albums, Bono has gone on about how they're doing something revolutionary, changing it up, using all this hyperbole, acting like they're doing something so different and trend-setting like Achtung Baby or Kid A, and instead, when push comes to shove, we get an over-produced, short, self-conscious collection of songs. There was a time when U2 put out ENTIRE ALBUMS and weren't worried about pop-friendly, radio songs. Ever since POP, they've been so worried about being themselves that they take what they write and overwork it to death. The U2 of the early 90's would have put out Native Son, or Mercy, or Smile, or the original ABOY. The U2 of the 80's certainly would not be releasing GOYB.
2. Length matters when you also consider how they've gone on about how creative they've been, reaching the "vein" or "mine" of musical sounds and ideas, and that's why it's taken them so long to produce an album. Now we get a 50 minute album with 10 songs and you gotta wonder, gee, maybe they're full of shite. Maybe they were just plain lazy or wrote 40 terrible songs and weren't sure what to do with them. Maybe they are just too self-conscious about what they wrote so they took 10 to Eno and said make this sound radio friendly. Whatever you want to consider, it is relevant considering it's been 5 years, they wrote 40 songs, and we get 10 at 50 minutes when Bono went on about it being long. It is worth noting.