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#842 | |
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is this a pattern? or is "the surge" whatever we want to call anything that hasn't been a disaster? we are now to credit *everything* that happened to the influx of 30,000 more troops, even before they got there, lest we disrespect our brave men and women in uniform? |
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#843 |
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Random off-topic question: is anyone else besides me bothered by the fact that it's no longer possible to quote-box text from another website (like an article or blog) within your post without having it automatically italicized? I've always liked having the option to visually distinguish such things by putting them in a quote box, but I find that having everything in italics slows down my reading speed to an annoying degree.
I ask because if others besides me are bothered by this, I can see if anything can be done about it (though that may not be possible), but I don't want to make a big deal out of it if it's just me whining. FYM has far more sourced-from-elsewhere text in it than the other forums, so I figured if it were a problem anywhere, it'd be here. |
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#844 | |
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He clearly said that the surge BEGAN the awakening, which I could have bought as another gaffe. The fact is reiterating him makes him either a liar or a deluded old fool. |
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#845 |
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Well, there's good judgement and perfect judgement. . .I think you're expecting the latter.
But nonetheless, I still think his judgement is sound. As I said, Irvine has made a good case for why the surge while having some postiive results is not the sole reason for the improved situation for Iraq and thus has argued that one can still maintian one would have still been against the surge even while acknowledging some benefits from it. So now I don't think Obama's opposition to the surge is because of "bad judgement." Supposing all the other factors Irvine mentioned hadnt' been in play as well. Would the surge have been as successful? We can't know the answer to that, but it's perhaps a little simplistic to attribute every good thing to the surge. At any rate, none of this sounds good on TV and so Obama is left with the difficult options in front of him as to how to explain his views on the campaign trail. If you want to debate his judgement perhaps you might consider whether his decision to stick with his original opinion on the surge is a good political decision or if the "I was wrong" choice would have been better. |
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#846 |
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![]() I have no idea who put up that Obama sticker. I hope it was done by someone without any association with the Obama team. It looks really tacky. |
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#847 |
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My first guess: photoshopped
Both signs have the exact same curl in the corner. Same writing above. And the colors on the left banner seemed altered. And then if you bring this image into an editing software and do a quick contrast, you can see some pixels on the left banner are obviously manipulated. |
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#848 |
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They interviewed a guy on TV who had one of those signs and he seemed to be an Obama supporter (by his accent I'd guess Israeli-born). It didn't sound like anything official.
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#849 |
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Well, let's look a little closer
![]() ![]() See all the Obama flags here: http://www.barackobama.com/people/ this is kind of freaky more of a divider than a uniter ? |
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Grasping at straws, deep?
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Yeah it bugs me. I like italics for emphasis occasionally, but find it hard on my eyes (never the best in the first place) to read large amounts of it. |
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#855 |
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Looks like even the other hosts at MSNBC have had enough of Olbermann ignoring the facts...
Olbermann Watch - MSNBC's Countdown with Keith Olbermann: Gibson Congratulates Scarborough: "Somebody Finally Said It" |
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#856 |
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Olbermann, as far as I understand it, is not actually running a presidential campaign, so really what he says matters about as much as what anybody else on TV says, whatever network they're on. |
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#857 |
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I have to say that it warms my heart to see people abroad waving American flags again. There is an opportunity for a different kind of global politics after the last 8 years and I can only hope that Americans embrace it in November.
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No. Olbermann distorts the truth and is more dishonest than anyone I have ever seen in the news business. It matters when people watch his show to get election information, and it's so blatantly one-sided. |
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I was thinking the same thing. The image of Europeans excited about America and waving American flags rather than using them in protest is a stark contrast against what we've been seeing the last 8 years, and it's such a wonderful feeling.
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I don't watch Keith Olbermann for any information. I think he's just as obnoxious as O'Reilly and when I see him I change the channel
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