US 08 Presidential Campaign General Discussion Thread #8

[A_Wanderer]

Originally Posted by Se7en

maybe someone should mine youtube for all of mccain's mistakes too. that would be really constructive.

They do, and it is proof that he is senile.

[VintagePunk]

Originally Posted by TheEdge U2JT

Forgets a phrase? Did you watch the same clip? Be real. Thsi is not the only time he has looked foolish when he has had to speak without the benefit of a script. If this was either McCain or Palin, the liberal media and the liberals would be calling her Dan Quayle and saying McCain is another Bush...although they are trying to say the ladder for different reasons.

I just think it is laughable how everyone makes this guy out to be a great speaker. He is just very good at reading off a sheet. He going to get killed in the debates. Maybe he can just avoid the questions there by saying its all above his pay grade.

That was a pretty blatant case of him screwing up and losing his place/train of thought. However, I'm fairly certain that even during that instance, he could have immediately come up with the number of houses he owns.

[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by A_Wanderer

They do, and it is proof that he is senile.

some of the McCain senior moments are well documented. you can easily find them.

and they have not been used by the Obama campaign.

[deep]

caught wind of a rumor

not sure how reliable

Joe Biden may have tested positive for prostate? cancer

could Obama be the one getting a new V P candidate ?

who would he choose ?


who should he choose ?

[mobvok]

I hate picking on candidates for slip ups. McCain or Obama. Think of the grueling schedule they've been on since (at the very least) January. And then you have a squadron of howling monkeys on YouTube recording all their speeches and if they mess up it's a "senior moment" or "the guy can't speak off the cuff".

[2861U2]

Originally Posted by mobvok

I hate picking on candidates for slip ups. McCain or Obama. Think of the grueling schedule they've been on since (at the very least) January. And then you have a squadron of howling monkeys on YouTube recording all their speeches and if they mess up it's a "senior moment" or "the guy can't speak off the cuff".

Fair enough. I sometimes get the impression in here, though, of when Obama makes a mistake, people say "Leave him alone. He gives speeches everyday and is tired." But when McCain makes a mistake, it's "a senior moment" and we should question his ability to be president.

[anitram]

Check out these new voter registration numbers. A lot of this credit goes to the Obama ground game - I think they have the best one out there, and are probably benefiting from the long primary fight and all the offices they were forced to open then. Bad news for the GOP in a number of states, some of the numbers are particularly stark.

State R D Other Period
AK 2,836 2,628 6,825 March-September
AZ 32,141 68,480 4,359 January-September
CA 46,497 417,793 117,313 January-May
CO 13,352 66,516 23,437 January-July
DE 676 4,428 2,200 July-September
FL 77,196 209,422 26,100 January-June
IA 7,515 69,301 -62,922 January-August
KS 1,553 13,159 -1,704 January-March
MD 4,260 12,338 5,544 January-July
NV 1,230 51,547 7,550 January-August
NH -1,285 1,188 269 June-August
NY 1,526 102,559 -164 November-March
NC 20,363 171,955 123,605 January-August
OR -13,349 122,518 - January-July
PA 289 98,137 15,907 April-August
WY 1,390 3,409 5,892 January-August

[Se7en]

Originally Posted by deep

caught wind of a rumor

not sure how reliable

Joe Biden may have tested positive for prostate? cancer

could Obama be the one getting a new V P candidate ?

who would he choose ?


who should he choose ?

if true, it's likely that, given his access to quality healthcare, the cancer was detected early. its impact may be limited.

hopefully it's not true.

[Se7en]

Originally Posted by anitram

Check out these new voter registration numbers. A lot of this credit goes to the Obama ground game - I think they have the best one out there, and are probably benefiting from the long primary fight and all the offices they were forced to open then. Bad news for the GOP in a number of states, some of the numbers are particularly stark.

State R D Other Period
AK 2,836 2,628 6,825 March-September
AZ 32,141 68,480 4,359 January-September
CA 46,497 417,793 117,313 January-May
CO 13,352 66,516 23,437 January-July
DE 676 4,428 2,200 July-September
FL 77,196 209,422 26,100 January-June
IA 7,515 69,301 -62,922 January-August
KS 1,553 13,159 -1,704 January-March
MD 4,260 12,338 5,544 January-July
NV 1,230 51,547 7,550 January-August
NH -1,285 1,188 269 June-August
NY 1,526 102,559 -164 November-March
NC 20,363 171,955 123,605 January-August
OR -13,349 122,518 - January-July
PA 289 98,137 15,907 April-August
WY 1,390 3,409 5,892 January-August

very interesting...

i'm curious to see if these voters will be mobilized to get out for the general election.

[phillyfan26]

Originally Posted by Screwtape2

Honestly, you should be able to finish your own thought even if you lose your teleprompter.

Honestly, you should be able to speak in public as a presidential candidate without breaking out in tears.

See, I can play this petty, meaningless game, too.

I love how everything has to stray from the issues now. People question why I support Obama, and cannot believe it's just because I think he has better stances than McCain. I hate politics.

[TheEdge U2JT]

Originally Posted by phillyfan26

Honestly, you should be able to speak in public as a presidential candidate without breaking out in tears.

I dont see how you can criticize emotion in the same way as an inability to put 8 words together in a sentence if your teleprompter dies.

At least he tried to blame it on being tired and not acid reflux do a jig and run to his limo!

[U2Fanatic4ever]

what's the big f**kin deal that he messed up on a speech who cares! I couldn't care less if it were Obama or McCain, Palin or Biden. Why are people making a mountain out of a mole hill.

[deep]

Originally Posted by Se7en

if true, it's likely that, given his access to quality healthcare, the cancer was detected early. its impact may be limited.

hopefully it's not true.

someone said they are preparing the way in case Obama is down by 5 points with 10 -14 days to go.


Would a new Dem. V P nominee shake up (boost) the Dem ticket,
like Palin did for the GOP?

[U2Fanatic4ever]

why hell are we speculating on something so far fetched as Biden having prostate cancer.. A friggin rumor for god's sake. That I haven't even heard of until I entered this thread..


is there even a source/link to this possible rumor?

[BVS]

What?! Someone stumbled on their speech? Oh NOES!!!

People are reaching...

I can't wait till the debates.

[deep]

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[U2Fanatic4ever]

reaching... what a understatement that is.. I agree with ya... Is it so slow out there that the media has nothing else to talk about.. Oh wait, how about talking about the issues that the candidates are speaking of or should be talking about...

[Se7en]

Originally Posted by deep

someone said they are preparing the way in case Obama is down by 5 points with 10 -14 days to go.


Would a new Dem. V P nominee shake up (boost) the Dem ticket,
like Palin did for the GOP?

i consider myself pretty cynical, but i don't believe that either campaign would politicize a diagnosed case of cancer in that way. (when i said "its impact" in my previous post, i was referring to the cancer itself limiting biden's ability to perform his duties)

hopefully no one has cancer.

[anitram]

Originally Posted by deep

caught wind of a rumor

not sure how reliable

Joe Biden may have tested positive for prostate? cancer

could Obama be the one getting a new V P candidate ?

who would he choose ?


who should he choose ?

Where is this rumor posted?

If a similar rumor was floating about Palin and breast cancer, there would be people here outraged at how dare we spread such terrible rumors about her.

[Diemen]

Originally Posted by deep

caught wind of a rumor

not sure how reliable

Joe Biden may have tested positive for prostate? cancer

could Obama be the one getting a new V P candidate ?

who would he choose ?


who should he choose ?

I looked into it

and concluded there's nothing to it

Just someone throwing little tidbits in

So some may think it's legit