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I don't understand how Olbermann can say McCain and Republicans have phony tears about September 11th when he scolded Gibson for saying someone had phony tears. I read your explanation a few pages back, and I just don't get it. How is this not hypocrisy? |
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I think the point is Keith said he would never doubt the sincerity of anyone's pain, and is now calling McCain's use of 9/11 as phony crocidle tears... It is hypocritical. |
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Didn't Oberman and Matthews get demoted?
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No, I think Olbermann's main point is that McCain and the Republicans, as they did in 2004, are politicizing 9/11 to their advantage. The RNC said they were going to pay a special tribute to 9/11 with a video that even children should see. What they did instead was show some of the most horrific pictures in order to rile up old emotions, and cheer on stories of a war hero who "knows" how to capture bin Laden & protect our country.
Politics, not tribute.
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Yes, Matthews is now a Second Lieutenant, and Olbermann is now Tom Brokaw's personal assistant.
SCORE!
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Gibson was acting like Stewart was faking his emotions, something nobody in their right mind would think. It was stupid. That's why Olbermann called him out, for implying crocodile tears in a situation where the clearly weren't any. LOTS AND LOTS AND LOTS of people in their right mind see the reality of the GOP's exploitation of 9/11. Olbermann is calling this situation out because everybody sees it. It is legitimate. Not a baseless, idiotic, insensitive, attention-grabbing ploy like Gibson's claims. |
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I do think the delivery was over the top, but the point is valid.
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It is not at all the same situation as the Stewart clip that was being mocked in the earlier clip. The two are not comparable imo. |
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Hmm...
Rasmussen Poll with an end date of 09/07 had McCain up by 7 in Ohio - 51-44. But a Quinnipiac poll with an end date of 09/09 and a sample size nearly three times larger than that of the Rasmussen poll has Obama up by 5 - 49-44. Interesting. Also of interest, the most recent CNN/Time poll for New Hampshire, with an end date of 09/09 - looks to be the most recent poll we have for NH at this point - has Obama's lead increased to six points - 51-45. Of concern is that the most recent poll for New Mexico - a Rasmussen poll with an end date of 09/08 - has McCain suddenly ahead by two points - 49-47, where Obama had had a fairly comfortable advantage there up to this point. No recent enough polls for Indiana, but rumblings are the the Obama campaign's internal polling says that Indiana is close enough for them to take out considerable television ad time and maybe schedule some campaign appearances there. Still waiting for a new poll for Nevada - nothing beyond 08/26 there. All recent polling suggests that Obama still has a slim lead in Colorado. Rasmussen poll with an end date of 09/07 has McCain up by 2 in Virginia - 49-47, as does a SurveyUSA poll with an end date of 09/07, while a CNN/Time poll with an end date of 09/09 has McCain up by 4 there - 50-46. CNN/Time gives Obama a 4 point - 49-45 - lead in Michigan as of 09/09, while two other polls give him a 1 point - 45-44 and 47-46 - lead in Michigan as of 09/07. In Pennsylvania, as of 09/09, Quinnipiac has Obama up by 3 - 48-45, while as of 09/07, Rasmussen and Strategic Vision have him up by 2 - 47-45. Many are suggesting that Pennsylvania is not as close as it looks - that it will go Obama. In Florida, a Rasmussen poll with an end date of 09/07 has it tied, while three other polls - PPP with an end date of 09/07, Quinnipiac with an end date of 09/09, and InAdv/Pollposition with an end date of 09/10 - have McCain up by 5 - 50-45, 7 - 50-43, and 8 - 50-42, respectively. Interesting times. |
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factcheck.org gets pissed:
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Hah, started a thread on this 24 hours ago...hehe
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You are really offering a hostage to fortune with statements like that.
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It's ok....
I even attached the Campaign fund raising letter McCain is sending to potential supports trying to make $$$ off of the web smears. |
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Did anyone watch Obama on Letterman last night? In case you missed it
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