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Old 11-22-2011, 08:36 PM   #621
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Every corporate owned news media organization is too far to the right. MSNBC? Right. CNN? Right. Fox? Extreme right. They all cater to corporate interests, every single one.
Dude, what are you from Europe or something?

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Anyways, the incentive for a corporate-backed cable news property, whether it be Fox, MSNBC, or (do you remember?) CNN is not to provide unbiased content and inform the public. It is to get as many eyeballs watching its obnoxious talking heads as possible.

I do have to say though, I try to give conservative viewpoints (non antiquated social ones) a fair shake, and Fox has the market cornered on fear-mongering and blatant ridiculous headlines as far divorced from reality as your crazy uncle who forwards you bizarre emails about the Kenyan Nigger.
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Well now I've heard everything.
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And the reverse is true as well. I bring up a problem with MSNBC, you or someone else hits back with Fox News. I find it odd that the criticisms of FNC brought up in this thread are almost never simultaneously directed at MSNBC, though they easily could and should be. Why is that?
MSNBC is fucking terrible, but I really need to dig hard to find something on MSNBC like this gem:



Has Sean Hannity been waterboarded yet, by the way?

Just bend over and grab your ankles, America, it keeps getting better.
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Old 11-23-2011, 09:41 AM   #623
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Fine, don't watch, but why the incessant attacks on those that do?
Because they insist on defending FNC as some sort of legitimate news organization. Which it is not. It is biased and partisan and quite clearly has an agenda, as do other so-called "news" outlets.
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Because they insist on defending FNC as some sort of legitimate news organization. Which it is not. It is biased and partisan and quite clearly has an agenda, as do other so-called "news" outlets.
Funny, FNC covers natural disasters and elections and wars and foreign affairs and business and breaking news and all that good stuff just like all the other "news" outlets.
Are you just unhappy because they have the highest ratings even when covering non-political events or because their reporter; standing in the full gale of a hurricane as it pounds the coast doesn't, at some point, blame global warming for the storm?
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Isn't that about 5% of their airtime though?
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I think Apple has about 13 per cent of the computer market, include iPads as computers and soon they will be at 18% passing up H P.

Then they will be able to claim to be number 1. When only 18% of the market using the Apple OS products.

With that thought in mind. Fox is one network vs four others sharing the market for the liberals/ progressives.

Are they an Apple with only 18%, saying we are number 1?
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Look at election night 2010. Sitting around the MSNBC desk were Chris Matthews, Larry O'Donnell, Rachel Maddow, Ed Schultz and Eugene Robinson. It's the single most important evening for a cable news outlet every few years, and that's the route they choose to go.
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Look at election night 2010. Sitting around the MSNBC desk were Chris Matthews, Larry O'Donnell, Rachel Maddow, Ed Schultz and Eugene Robinson. It's the single most important evening for a cable news outlet every few years, and that's the route they choose to go.
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Look at election night 2010. Sitting around the MSNBC desk were Chris Matthews, Larry O'Donnell, Rachel Maddow, Ed Schultz and Eugene Robinson. It's the single most important evening for a cable news outlet every few years, and that's the route they choose to go.
I remember this though.

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In yet another bizarre twist to an already surreal campaign, the head of Fox News's Election Night decision desk – who recommended calling Florida, and the election, for George W. Bush – turns out to be Bush's first cousin.

Even as he was leading the Fox decision desk that night, John Ellis was also on the phone with his cousins – "Jebbie," the governor of Florida, and the presidential candidate himself – giving them updated assessments of the vote count.

Ellis's projection was crucial because Fox News Channel put Florida in the W. column at 2:16 a.m. – followed by NBC, CBS, CNN and ABC within four minutes. That decision, which turned out to be wrong and was retracted by the embarrassed networks less than two hours later, created the impression that Bush had "won" the White House.

Which is why media circles were buzzing yesterday with the question of why Fox had installed a Bush relative in such a sensitive post.
I don't watch cable news, although my father watches FOX so I do catch it by osmosis. Have no idea what MSNBC or CNN are doing except for Chris Matthews' tingly leg.
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Funny, FNC covers natural disasters and elections and wars and foreign affairs and business and breaking news and all that good stuff just like all the other "news" outlets.
Come on. I'm a mid-level Fox hater. I've got no beef with it's bias, and only hate how unbelievably dumbed down it is (with MSNBC bad too, and so - sadly - they've both dragged CNN down over the years). But when it comes to their 'coverage' of events, they're pathetic. Easily the worst. They could do better, their News Corp 'serious news' sister channel in the UK (Sky News) is fantastic for this, so they've got the links or network there to use. An event occurs, and they obviously invest all their energy only in coming up with a Michael Bay headline/graphics for it, and figuring out how it can be forced through a US left/right political filter, and absolutely no energy on information or education or analysis whatever, let alone actual decent on the ground coverage. Do yourself a favour - when shit goes down, grab the remote and flick to BBC News.
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Come on. I'm a mid-level Fox hater. I've got no beef with it's bias, and only hate how unbelievably dumbed down it is (with MSNBC bad too, and so - sadly - they've both dragged CNN down over the years). But when it comes to their 'coverage' of events, they're pathetic. Easily the worst. They could do better, their News Corp 'serious news' sister channel in the UK (Sky News) is fantastic for this, so they've got the links or network there to use. An event occurs, and they obviously invest all their energy only in coming up with a Michael Bay headline/graphics for it, and figuring out how it can be forced through a US left/right political filter, and absolutely no energy on information or education or analysis whatever, let alone actual decent on the ground coverage. Do yourself a favour - when shit goes down, grab the remote and flick to BBC News.
I didn't know there was any subliminal "Obama is evil" message in their coverage of natural disasters, police chases, missing children, or other truly newsworthy events.

I'd love to see examples.
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I didn't know there was any subliminal "Obama is evil" message in their coverage of natural disasters, police chases, missing children, or other truly newsworthy events.

I'd love to see examples.
Do you even read? I mean, where in Ernie's post did he say anything to this effect??

You also seem to be oblivious to the very simple notion that there are many of us out there that neither watch nor subscribe to Fox OR MSNBC.

Turn on the BBC indeed.
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I didn't know there was any subliminal "Obama is evil" message in their coverage of natural disasters, police chases, missing children, or other truly newsworthy events.

I'd love to see examples.
I believe he said they make everything partisan, not that they make everything about Obama.
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On Friday’s edition of The Five, Eric Bolling criticized President Obama for omitting reference to God in his Thanksgiving message. “I feel terrible — I absolutely think he should’ve had some sort of mention,” Bolling argued. “We’re thankful to whom? About 86% of the country believes in some form of a God — whether it’s Christianity or Islam or what not.” Panelist and former White House press secretary Dana Perino came to the President’s defense, saying she felt there was no substance to the outrage. “I think if you look back at the Thanksgiving messages in the past three presidencies, usually it’s in there. Sometimes it’s not, including the last year of President Bush’s administration. It’s depending on the speech writer at the time and what the president feels like saying. I just don’t read anything in this.”

“I don’t think it’s in question who you’re thankful to, it’s a personal thing,” Perino added. “It’s not a partisan thing. In the last two Thanksgiving messages that Obama’s done, the word God was in those messages, it wasn’t this year. I don’t think there’s anything to read into.”

The subject came about through complaints from the conservative blogosphere that the president was allegedly snubbing God in his speech. Fox News columnist Todd Starnes said President Obama’s remarks were “void of any religious references although Thanksgiving is a holiday traditionally steeped in giving thanks and praise to God.”

Conservative commentator Ben Shapiro went even further — stretching the “Obama didn’t mention God” media narrative to comically ridiculous heights by calling the President a “militant atheist.” “Unreal that Obama doesn’t mention God in Thanksgiving message,” Shapiro exclaimed. “Militant atheist. To whom does he think we are giving thanks?”

“If President Obama had been the very first president ever to not say the word “God” in the Thanksgiving message this topic would’ve been worth doing,” Perino concluded.
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That is just depressing.
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President Obama turned me atheist and Muslim.
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Is this being presented as an example of some sort of institutional bias at FNC? Because "The Five" is an opinion show, and Bolling's remark was shot down by multiple people on the panel, including a conservative.
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Is this being presented as an example of some sort of institutional bias at FNC? Because "The Five" is an opinion show, and Bolling's remark was shot down by multiple people on the panel, including a conservative.
No just an example of their asinine programming, and their choice of ignorant "experts".
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Is this being presented as an example of some sort of institutional bias at FNC? Because "The Five" is an opinion show, and Bolling's remark was shot down by multiple people on the panel, including a conservative.

No, actually I posted it because she did. I don't watch that show on a regular basis, it's so bad that I'd rather gouge out my eyeballs with a fork. So I don't know what goes on there on a regular basis. But if anyone is going to talk about Obama "dissing" God they should get their facts straight first. Personally I think God is too busy on Thanksgiving worrying about people who don't have anything to eat or a roof over their heads to even give that one thought.
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Newt Gingrich took a swipe at Fox News during a town hall meeting on Tuesday.

Gingrich, who has been surging in the presidential polls, was in the key state of South Carolina taking questions. Think Progress caught video of Gingrich's response to one query. A woman in the audience asked a complex question about the Obama administration's AIDS policy, and wondered what Gingrich thought about the issue. The candidate admitted that the information was new to him, and that he didn't know enough to give her a response. Then he hit out at Fox News -- which used to employ him as an analyst before dropping him when he made his intentions to run for president clear.

"One of the real changes that comes when you start running for President -- as opposed to being an analyst on Fox -- is I have to actually know what I'm talking about," he said. The woman let out a startled laugh, and the audience joined in. "It's a severe limitation," Gingrich added.

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