What if one of the band came out and said they were gay?

[Serena Vox]

Then they would be gay, end of story.
I wouldn't see what the big deal is about it.

 

[BVS]

Well none of the band are gay so there are no moral quandries for fans or band members alike to confront. A mute thread.
(Sorry about spelling)

Well no one can say for absolute, but if any of them were there shouldn't be any "moral quandries" to begin with.

The only answer to this question is, I would feel sorry for their significant other, but other than that it wouldn't change shit.

End of thread.



PS Moby is definately not gay.

 

[elevated_u2_fan]

PS Moby is definately not gay.

should I ask how you know this?

 

[BVS]

should I ask how you know this?

Well he's been linked to many female celebrities over the years, including porn stars, but I also know someone who personally dated him for awhile...

 

[silvrlvr]

Moby's gay? Last gossip I read about him was that he was spreading herpes around half the female population of Lower Manhattan!

Although with rumors like that being spread around, I'd think he'd welcome being thought gay instead.

Sorry to all, I correct myself. I thought he was gay, because I know some of the people he hangs with.

But here is his own quote on the subject (from an interview in the Advocate, no less...)

Moby is a tough guy to label. Culturally, says the heterosexual born-again Christian, "I'm more of a gay Jew than I am a straight WASP from Connecticut. My formative years were spent peppering my speech with Yiddish and hanging out in gay nightclubs."

 

[catlhere]

you like doing that, don't you?

Sometimes I just need to leave a thread

Add a Facepalm Man and I'm set.

 

[Irvine511]

Moby is gay, too??

no. he's not. sorry to get all uppity, but i met him and his girlfriend at a party once. and the reason he'd hang out in gay clubs is because that's where the most cutting edge music is found.



all it would change for me would be my complete and total conviction that i remain 100% correct about the homosexual subtext throughout Boy.

actually, it would make U2 more interesting, if anything.

 

[BONO'ppetit]

no. he's not. sorry to get all uppity, but i met him and his girlfriend at a party once. and the reason he'd hang out in gay clubs is because that's where the most cutting edge music is found.



all it would change for me would be my complete and total conviction that i remain 100% correct about the homosexual subtext throughout Boy.

actually, it would make U2 more interesting, if anything.

With all due respect, not a very convincing argument. Sir Elton, himself, was once married for four years. To a WOMAN. And this, after his professed homosexuality, so having a girlfriend does not mean a guy is not gay. Not by a long shot. That being said, who cares, right?

 

[Irvine511]

With all due respect, not a very convincing argument. Sir Elton, himself, was once married for four years. To a WOMAN. And this, after his professed homosexuality, so having a girlfriend does not mean a guy is not gay. Not by a long shot. That being said, who cares, right?

yes, yes, we all know married men are sometimes gay. they've hit on me before.

there's no evidence that Moby is gay, unless you want to think that every slender man who wears Diesel and lives in Chelsea is gay.

i assume i'd have heard from the Velvet Mafia by now if he were.

 

[BONO'ppetit]

yes, yes, we all know married men are sometimes gay. they've hit on me before.

there's no evidence that Moby is gay, unless you want to think that every slender man who wears Diesel and lives in Chelsea is gay.

i assume i'd have heard from the Velvet Mafia by now if he were.

I know a gay guy who's always with a girl but he calls her his fag hag. Everyone thinks they're a couple who doesn't know them. LOL

 

[waynetravis]

They'd be be like the Scissor Sisters; making fantastic music

 

[Bug]

No, I think the "Freddie Mercury showGAYship" thread was worse.

It seems this topic brings out the worst in Interference.

showGAYship is probably the best word of all time.

But yeah, this thread is lame.
U2's slasher fandom would explode of 'zomg i knew it' though and 'Boner is Gay' jokes would be a plague.
I would continue to not care.

 

[innominata8]

They'd be be like the Scissor Sisters; making fantastic music

exactly.

on a different note...as a gay guy myself, it's nice to see so many people here who really don't give a damn about other people's 'sexual orientation'. i've always thought of the "U2 crowd" as fairly progressive and in touch with a variety social issues; it's nice to see that further confirmed by this thread.

 

[xaviMF22]

all it would change for me would be my complete and total conviction that i remain 100% correct about the



homosexual subtext throughout Boy.

actually, it would make U2 more interesting, if anything.

say what?

 

[Bug]

say what?

Read the lyrics sometime
Twilight in paticular.

 

[phillyfan26]

say what?

See: Twighlight

 

[DreamOutLoud13]

I would say "I knew it "

And then I'd blame myself, because it seems that I turn men gay just by liking them, when in reality, I imagine that I'm just attracted to gay men, even if I don't know yet that they're gay


But. This thread is missing something.

There we go

 

[Irvine511]

[q]My body grows and grows
It frightens me you know
The old man tried to walk me home
I thought he should have known

Twilight...
Twilight, lost my way
Twilight, can't find my way

In the shadow boy meets man
In the shadow boy meets man
In the shadow boy meets man
In the shadow boy meets man

I'm running in the rain
I'm caught in a late night play
It's all; it's everything
I'm soaking through the skin[/q]

 

[LMP]

I always thought that was about a boy's childhood ending and his transition into manhood.

 

[Zoots]

I always thought that was about a boy's childhood ending and his transition into manhood.

Me too! But I guess it could have an alternate meaning too. meh!

This thread is good entertainment!

 

[DreamOutLoud13]

In the Much Music special during the Elevation Tour they were asked about how they've stayed together all these years and Bono said "We're gay.", with a big grin. The other three just smirked and the audience cheered.

Dana

And let's just add a link, in case anyone wants to hear it for theirself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKhIM5-IF2I

 

[U2opra]

My thoughts exactly. But I guess songs can be interpreted differently by anyone.

Also, when I was at the manchester concert in the vertigo tour when I went to see U2, there was lots of gays, families, men and their girlfriends/wives, all different people. To be fair, it made me very proud, to know, that U2 music reaches out to all kinds of people not just one type crowd. But even though, I say it reaches out to different ages, sexualities and genders, as a whole we're all pretty special. In that, we all share the same belief, that it really doesn't matter, where you are from, who you are, but that we're all treated equal by the band, and pretty special too

For that, being a U2 fan, is the best thing ever!

 

[xaviMF22]

[q]My body grows and grows
It frightens me you know
The old man tried to walk me home
I thought he should have known

Twilight...
Twilight, lost my way
Twilight, can't find my way

In the shadow boy meets man
In the shadow boy meets man
In the shadow boy meets man
In the shadow boy meets man

I'm running in the rain
I'm caught in a late night play
It's all; it's everything
I'm soaking through the skin[/q]

I have never really looked at the lyrics to this song

are there any other songs on boy with homosexual themes?

 

[xaviMF22]

by the way someone should start the

What if U2 were dogs? thread

we all know it'll happen

 

[Irvine511]

I always thought that was about a boy's childhood ending and his transition into manhood.

there was a big thread on this that got a little heated and was eventually closed.

as we know, there's never a single interpretation to a song. listeners create their own meaning. while everyone is entitled to an opinion -- is "streets" about africa for you? getting out of the suburbs? going to heaven? -- some opinions are going to be more "valid" than others because they can be defended with greater textual evidence.

which brings us to what is known as a Queer Reading.

what a Queer Reading is NOT is taking a song like ISHFWILF and saying, "gee, bono's looking for something, maybe he's looking for a homosexual experience." there's no corresponding evidence to support that. if that's what it says to you, fine, but you'd never get a passing grade in a Literature class if you submitted that.

with "Twilight," what i think we see is an allusion to "cruising" -- closted men meeting in secretive locations and having a sexual interlude before running home to families. the "old man" probably simply refers to someone older than the adolescent who's exploring sexuality, and the image "i'm soaking through the skin" is rather erotic as well.

i could go on.

does this mean that Bono was messing around with men in the shadows? no, not literally, and no, he probably didn't *intend* for the lyrics to mean that. but they can mean that, especially on an album that alludes to Oscar Wilde and the homosocial island of Lord of the Flies, and they lend themselves well to a Queer Reading.

and i think Bono said this as well. he said in the "Into the Heart" book that the song is totally about being hit on by a guy, even if that never explicitly happened to him, so he said (even if he talks about being hit on many times in the U2 by U2 book, which i found actually slightly off-putting as he seemed rather macho about the whole thing).

and i'm not the only one who saw this. it is well known that U2 had a significant gay following in the beginning, mostly due to what gay men were able to read into the Boy album. U2, being very naive at the time, were unaware, Adam said they thought they were just getting rich punks to come to their shows.

Boy is about the end of adolesence, and about sexuality. note "Stories for Boys" -- sometimes, a "lady" takes him, but sometimes a "hero" takes him. Paul McG always thought the song was about masturbation. i agree.

it's not to say that anyone in U2 was gay. they all seem 100% straight to me. it is to say that grapping with sexuality and an awareness, however latent, of the existence of homosexuality is going to creep their way into any form of artistic expression. and i'm certain Bono knew many gay people, he being in touch with the artsier side of Dublin, even as teenagers.

Boy is a terrific album

 

[Irvine511]

are there any other songs on boy with homosexual themes?

[q]Sometimes the hero takes me
Sometimes I don't let go
Hello hello

Sometimes the lady takes me
Sometimes I don't let go
Hello hello
[/q]



in a song about masturbation, sometimes a lady takes you, sometimes a hero -- here, as evidenced by the parallel structure, clearly male -- takes him.

 

[Irvine511]

Also, when I was at the manchester concert in the vertigo tour when I went to see U2, there was lots of gays, families, men and their girlfriends/wives, all different people. To be fair, it made me very proud, to know, that U2 music reaches out to all kinds of people not just one type crowd. But even though, I say it reaches out to different ages, sexualities and genders, as a whole we're all pretty special. In that, we all share the same belief, that it really doesn't matter, where you are from, who you are, but that we're all treated equal by the band, and pretty special too

in the at the end of the world book, Larry talks about how they would often go to gay clubs to hear better music and because they'd be left alone, and how he had a lot of time for the gay community.

and what's so great about U2 songs is that they aren't macho like the Stones, or even overtly, powerfully heterosexual like Springsteen. you don't hear about "hey little girl is your daddy home" and stuff where what's happening is so explicit, it requires little imagination to put it together. the word "you" does wonders.

and "one" is clearly a pro-gay anthem. and even OOTS could qualify as such.

 

[LMP]

Yes, I remember reading that in End of the World / The U2 Bible, too.

I never really thought of the homoerotic themes of Boy before, but you do bring up good points.

 

[Justin24]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKhIM5-IF2I

LOL Edge umm didn't seem happy. LOL

 

[Justin24]

in the at the end of the world book, Larry talks about how they would often go to gay clubs to hear better music and because they'd be left alone, and how he had a lot of time for the gay community.

and what's so great about U2 songs is that they aren't macho like the Stones, or even overtly, powerfully heterosexual like Springsteen. you don't hear about "hey little girl is your daddy home" and stuff where what's happening is so explicit, it requires little imagination to put it together. the word "you" does wonders.

and "one" is clearly a pro-gay anthem. and even OOTS could qualify as such.

How is one and OOTs gay?