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Old 01-06-2003, 11:58 AM   #21
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well, winamp for some reason keeps throwing in american prayer, despite a relatively healthy selection of other songs for it to chose from.

so i deleted it, and not just off my playlist but off my computer completely. i have found it be incredibly annoying.
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I haven't heard it yet
is it even worse than Playboy Mansion?
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I haven't heard it yet
is it even worse than Playboy Mansion?
Am I the only one who likes 'Playboy Mansion'?

...then will the be no time for sorrow
then will there be no time for pain
then will there be no time for sorrow...


This song was definitely a hint of what was to come...
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Am I the only one who likes 'Playboy Mansion'?
I think it's better than "Ultraviolet"
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Nothing special in my opinion
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I haven't heard it yet
is it even worse than Playboy Mansion?
It depends on what way you look at it.

If all you care about is the music and lyrics, independent from the whole concept behind the song, then yeah, it sounds pretty half-ass and cheesy.
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salome was an excellent song.

or no.
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Am I the only one who likes 'Playboy Mansion'?

...then will the be no time for sorrow
then will there be no time for pain
then will there be no time for sorrow...


This song was definitely a hint of what was to come...
Nope. I love that song! I think it was the first one I listened to when POP came out because the title made me curious.
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I agree that American Prayer is mediocre, compared to the rest of U2's work, and that the imagery is nothing new. But the song wasn't written for die-hard U2 fans! In my opinion, the song works. It makes people sitting at those AIDS lectures feel something for the cause in a way that words can't. I like it.
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I agree that American Prayer is mediocre, compared to the rest of U2's work
I would go a step further and say that American Prayer is mediocre all on it's own, not just in comparison to the rest of their work.
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I would go a step further and say that American Prayer is mediocre all on it's own, not just in comparison to the rest of their work.
but still, is it worse than Red Light?
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but still, is it worse than Red Light?
its better than red light, but worse than the refugee.
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so compared to "Is that all?" it's pretty mediocre?
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so compared to "Is that all?" it's pretty mediocre?
Both are mediocre songs. Compared to each other they're roughly equal in my eyes. Maybe a slight tip of the scales to American Prayer - maybe.
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Both are mediocre songs. Compared to each other they're roughly equal in my eyes. Maybe a slight tip of the scales to American Prayer - maybe.
*flinch*

does this explain why U2 is not in the Christian rock circuit?

imho, it's a beautiful and heartfelt song, not really intended for mass consumption, so a little facile, but how wonderful that he did write a song!

now, if he went to church more, he'd have a better background in hymns, lol
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very good for it's purpose, very heartfelt lyrics. song on album=bad. song as charity single=good. song's lyrics taken without context=bad. lyrics within context=good.

i'm a bit biased, but when i heard it i was sobbing. with all the issues and facts, it's very overwhelming.

i, too, would be a bit disappointed if it's on the next album. it isn't quite u2 album calliber.
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now, if he went to church more, he'd have a better background in hymns, lol
Muaaahahaaaa! I enjoyed that more than you will ever know!
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song's lyrics taken without context=bad. lyrics within context=good.
I simply disagree with that.

There have been many (too many to mention) politically/emotionally charged songs, not just from U2 but other bands. And many of them have brilliant lyrics. Context may improve the impact of the song, but not the lyrics. They are still very mediocre.
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I simply disagree with that.

There have been many (too many to mention) politically/emotionally charged songs, not just from U2 but other bands. And many of them have brilliant lyrics. Context may improve the impact of the song, but not the lyrics. They are still very mediocre.
I agree with what you said here, but I think maybe what Laura was trying to say is that, given the context, the lyrics simply were not important. For me, he could have gone up there and sang the Barney themesong with those kids and I still would've felt the same way I do now about the entire thing.
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you know what...the majority of the lyrics were a bit cheesy, but as lies said, it didn't matter to the kids singing them, and it didn't matter to me either at the time. this song is good in the context, which is the heartland of america tour with the gateway ambassadors...and like i said earlier, i, too, would be disappointed if it's on the album..it just isn't the quality we expect for that.

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there's just something different when of the kids singing along, probably 1/3 of the guys and 1/2 the girls will die from AIDS...
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