FallingStar
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He will keep on thrusting - I will help him if neccessary.*BOOMCHAA!* said:
You are doing your job well
Keep on thrusting!!!
Help! Bono's hugging SUPERHOOCH!
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It is so hypnotizing..................................thrust it.........................thrust it..........................thrust it...............SkyBlueDreamer said:I do love that moving Mysterious Ways sig too!
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Thank you Sicy, everything you said is true! Thanks Sky, Hallelujah, and anyone who understood.
What I cannot understand is why Superhooch bashing suddenly "GOT OLD" as soon as *I* started it. I had never even done it before, but I sure have seen a shitload of it around here! As a matter of fact, I see a new negative Superhooch thread on the page now, ironically started AFTER this mess! Hmm, must not be quite so "OLD" after all
I really was just trying to be fun, just like the rest of you, and I don't get this at all.
What I cannot understand is why Superhooch bashing suddenly "GOT OLD" as soon as *I* started it. I had never even done it before, but I sure have seen a shitload of it around here! As a matter of fact, I see a new negative Superhooch thread on the page now, ironically started AFTER this mess! Hmm, must not be quite so "OLD" after all
I really was just trying to be fun, just like the rest of you, and I don't get this at all.
Hallelujah Here She Comes
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Tabby said:Thank you Sicy, everything you said is true! Thanks Sky, Hallelujah, and anyone who understood.
What I cannot understand is why Superhooch bashing suddenly "GOT OLD" as soon as *I* started it. I had never even done it before, but I sure have seen a shitload of it around here! As a matter of fact, I see a new negative Superhooch thread on the page now, ironically started AFTER this mess! Hmm, must not be quite so "OLD" after all
I really was just trying to be fun, just like the rest of you, and I don't get this at all.
Don't feel too bad, Tabby. I don't think there was any particular reason your thread was singled out. And there *is* a lot of Superhooch-ness around here, but that doesn't mean everyone agrees with it. I personally don't, and I think we should think about what we say about someone we don't really know. But I also don't think you meant any real harm by it. K?
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Tabby, I wouldn't take it personally, I don't believe that anyone blames you or thinks it's your fault.
I think it's just that some of the comments made about Naomi (not necessarily in this thread), were out and out rude, they crossed the border of humor and straight into mean and vindictive.
Personally, I don't know very much about her...I'd heard of her diva rep, but that's about it.
While I see the humor in the "eeeeeeeewwwww hoochie cooties" that you intended, I think a lot of the girls were still mad over some comments ("Why can't she just die...she is a waste to humanity") made in another thread, which crosses that line. I know you didn't have any malicous intent...however others did, and I think some of the girls were still a bit sore over that.
I think it's just that some of the comments made about Naomi (not necessarily in this thread), were out and out rude, they crossed the border of humor and straight into mean and vindictive.
Personally, I don't know very much about her...I'd heard of her diva rep, but that's about it.
While I see the humor in the "eeeeeeeewwwww hoochie cooties" that you intended, I think a lot of the girls were still mad over some comments ("Why can't she just die...she is a waste to humanity") made in another thread, which crosses that line. I know you didn't have any malicous intent...however others did, and I think some of the girls were still a bit sore over that.
Liesje
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MonaVox said:
I'm with Mona here and anyway, BONO is in those pics and THAT should be enough for anyone!
MonaVox
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daisybean said:Tabby, I wouldn't take it personally, I don't believe that anyone blames you or thinks it's your fault.
I think it's just that some of the comments made about Naomi (not necessarily in this thread), were out and out rude, they crossed the border of humor and straight into mean and vindictive.
Personally, I don't know very much about her...I'd heard of her diva rep, but that's about it.
While I see the humor in the "eeeeeeeewwwww hoochie cooties" that you intended, I think a lot of the girls were still mad over some comments ("Why can't she just die...she is a waste to humanity") made in another thread, which crosses that line. I know you didn't have any malicous intent...however others did, and I think some of the girls were still a bit sore over that.
exactly. not meant at all personally to Tabby. I don't even know who posts in these threads or anything; that doesn't matter to me. But I mean it's been goin on fer awhile and suddenly there are like 3 threads about Naomi and I thought I'd express my own personal opinion.I'm sure nobody is seriously gonna take a shovel to Naomi's head or anything. But I don't think the bashin is necessary. And I can't spell.
Queen Betty
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Listen...
I kinda ragged on Naomi on one of the other threads, but, oh, well. I read that it was Adam who broke off the engagement, not Naomi. According to the source, Adam dumped Naomi because he felt that the relationship wasn't going to go anywhere. I read that a while back so I don't remember who wrote the piece or what it was called, sorry.
By the way, Bono and the rest of Lypton Village went on a trip to Wales in the early days, around '78, apparently to find Bono's flame of three years before, Mandy. (this was in Eamon Dunphy's book) Bono talked about how great she looked in her black bathing suit and all that, only to find that Mandy had begun dating someone else since their separation. The rest of the Village had a good laugh at Bono's reaction to that.
I kinda ragged on Naomi on one of the other threads, but, oh, well. I read that it was Adam who broke off the engagement, not Naomi. According to the source, Adam dumped Naomi because he felt that the relationship wasn't going to go anywhere. I read that a while back so I don't remember who wrote the piece or what it was called, sorry.
By the way, Bono and the rest of Lypton Village went on a trip to Wales in the early days, around '78, apparently to find Bono's flame of three years before, Mandy. (this was in Eamon Dunphy's book) Bono talked about how great she looked in her black bathing suit and all that, only to find that Mandy had begun dating someone else since their separation. The rest of the Village had a good laugh at Bono's reaction to that.
MonaVox said:
I'm sure nobody is seriously gonna take a shovel to Naomi's head or anything. But I don't think the bashin is necessary. And I can't spell.
Same here...except I can spell.
It looks like my comment was kind of the jumping point, so I feel a bit responsible.
Tabby, it was nothing against you at all...I just want you to know that. 
hippy
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Bear with me, this is long...
I didn't think I was being a killjoy by stating my opinion that Naomi is a human being like the rest of us. I would have said the same thing had it been someone on the board bashing someone else. No matter who it is, the things that were being said were inappropriate, in my opinion. You're right, she COULD be worse than we ever imagine...but that's not for us to decide without knowing her. Tabby, you might not see any harm in this, but I do. I stated that opinion and am now being told to "Lighten up!" because I spoke out against openly against the blatent hatred being shown on this board. In fact, I did not intend to start a fight. It seems that what I stated has been taken out of context and percieved as a personal attack, when in fact it was simply a woman stating a deeply held opinion.
Thank you, Fishy. As I've said countless times already, I was simply stating my opinion.
Once again the words "lighten up" come into the discussion. I am being light. But the lighthearted way people were saying things like "Why doesn't she just die?" and "She serves no purpose on earth." struck me as callous and inappropriate. I felt I needed to speak up. And I did and you seem to be taking personal offence at that, though nowhere was your name ever mentioned.
You're right, Sicy. Superhooch IS a big joke around here. It just seemed to me that the joke was being taken a little too far. I don't think it's a big deal to share how jealous we are of her and her relationship with Adam, but I do think it's incredibly inappropriate to be continually bashing her for "sport." I never said I liked her and I never said she was "poor and helpless", but coming from a background of physical and mental abuse from people for being the way I am and acting the way I act, I felt I needed to say something about the mean-spirited comments being made. You're also right that it is being blown out of proportion, but did I blow it out of proportion by calmly stating an opinon?
I never said it was a terrible thing to joke about her. I said it was a terrible thing to forget that she's a human being also. Regardless of whether she will ever read this or hear about this, something inside of me rebels at the thought of having my name associated with hateful, spiteful bashing of another person. When I say having my name associated with this, I mean by rights of being a PLEBAn we are ALL associated with what's going on here. And in a way, we are all responsible for the content. I didn't like the content, so I said something about it because I don't want to belong to a group who seem to get so much pleasure out of mocking and ridiculing other people. Been there, done that, and I'm still paying the emotional costs for having things like this happen. I wanted to stop it. You're right that this is ridiculous. I should be allowed to express an opinion without being attacked from all angles by people on this board. And there is no need for a list of things not to do. This is a board where intelligent people gather, that should be enough. Intelligent people know when they've crossed the line.
Thank you, Gina. I am also one of the people who don't find this funny.
Tabby, I also understood what you were saying. But you seem not to understand what I was saying. I didn't know that you would take it so much to heart and think I was attacking you personally. I'm sorry you felt that way. There is and was no need for you to attack me in such a vitrolic manner. I do not appreciate you saying some of the things you did, but I will not dignify them with a response.
As for Superhooch being "old", it's not. In fact, it'll probably never get "old" because new people will always be upset about the way her relationship with Adam ended up. What's getting "old" is the continually increasing vehemence and bite with which the remarks about Naomi are being presented. I do not appreciate that so I posted to remind everyone that Naomi is a human being, since that seemed to be getting lost.
There was no particular reason I choose to post in your thread, but it seems that you interpret it that way. It seems there has been an abundance of people posting about Naomi recently and yours happened to be the thread in which I finally decided I needed to say something about what was going on. I don't think you meant any harm by posting this thread, but I wanted to curb the dehumanization of Naomi before it started to get really ugly again.
Frankly, I'm surprised you took it personally, Tabby. The things I said were not directed at you in particular. I do not blame you for posting these pics. And it's not your fault other people were so scathing in their comments about Naomi. As Daisy said, the comments here and in other threads were getting pretty heavy and actually scary. The playful jealousy was turning into something that was getting very vicious.
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I know this has been a long post, but I felt that I needed to respond and make what I said clear. I do not appreciate the personal attacks against me because I hold an unpopular view and I do not see myself as a hypocrite because of anything I've said. I'm deeply sorry if I've offended anyone; nothing that I have said was meant to infuriate or start a fight. I'm sorry people felt this needed to turn into a shouting match. Thank you to those of you who posted comments and participated in this discussion. Hopefully, this never has to happen again. I feel that I've expressed myself clearly and I've done nothing I regret and nothing that goes against what I have always proclaimed were my beliefs and personal values. I would ask that all personal judgements of anyone on this board or anywhere in life, be carefully considered before they are posted. Though this is a message board, the things that go on here are very real. So please, think and act carefully. To use a very old cliche, "walk a mile in their shoes" before you criticize.
~hippy
I didn't think I was being a killjoy by stating my opinion that Naomi is a human being like the rest of us. I would have said the same thing had it been someone on the board bashing someone else. No matter who it is, the things that were being said were inappropriate, in my opinion. You're right, she COULD be worse than we ever imagine...but that's not for us to decide without knowing her. Tabby, you might not see any harm in this, but I do. I stated that opinion and am now being told to "Lighten up!" because I spoke out against openly against the blatent hatred being shown on this board. In fact, I did not intend to start a fight. It seems that what I stated has been taken out of context and percieved as a personal attack, when in fact it was simply a woman stating a deeply held opinion.
Thank you, Fishy. As I've said countless times already, I was simply stating my opinion.
Once again the words "lighten up" come into the discussion. I am being light. But the lighthearted way people were saying things like "Why doesn't she just die?" and "She serves no purpose on earth." struck me as callous and inappropriate. I felt I needed to speak up. And I did and you seem to be taking personal offence at that, though nowhere was your name ever mentioned.
You're right, Sicy. Superhooch IS a big joke around here. It just seemed to me that the joke was being taken a little too far. I don't think it's a big deal to share how jealous we are of her and her relationship with Adam, but I do think it's incredibly inappropriate to be continually bashing her for "sport." I never said I liked her and I never said she was "poor and helpless", but coming from a background of physical and mental abuse from people for being the way I am and acting the way I act, I felt I needed to say something about the mean-spirited comments being made. You're also right that it is being blown out of proportion, but did I blow it out of proportion by calmly stating an opinon?
I never said it was a terrible thing to joke about her. I said it was a terrible thing to forget that she's a human being also. Regardless of whether she will ever read this or hear about this, something inside of me rebels at the thought of having my name associated with hateful, spiteful bashing of another person. When I say having my name associated with this, I mean by rights of being a PLEBAn we are ALL associated with what's going on here. And in a way, we are all responsible for the content. I didn't like the content, so I said something about it because I don't want to belong to a group who seem to get so much pleasure out of mocking and ridiculing other people. Been there, done that, and I'm still paying the emotional costs for having things like this happen. I wanted to stop it. You're right that this is ridiculous. I should be allowed to express an opinion without being attacked from all angles by people on this board. And there is no need for a list of things not to do. This is a board where intelligent people gather, that should be enough. Intelligent people know when they've crossed the line.
Thank you, Gina. I am also one of the people who don't find this funny.
Tabby, I also understood what you were saying. But you seem not to understand what I was saying. I didn't know that you would take it so much to heart and think I was attacking you personally. I'm sorry you felt that way. There is and was no need for you to attack me in such a vitrolic manner. I do not appreciate you saying some of the things you did, but I will not dignify them with a response.
As for Superhooch being "old", it's not. In fact, it'll probably never get "old" because new people will always be upset about the way her relationship with Adam ended up. What's getting "old" is the continually increasing vehemence and bite with which the remarks about Naomi are being presented. I do not appreciate that so I posted to remind everyone that Naomi is a human being, since that seemed to be getting lost.
There was no particular reason I choose to post in your thread, but it seems that you interpret it that way. It seems there has been an abundance of people posting about Naomi recently and yours happened to be the thread in which I finally decided I needed to say something about what was going on. I don't think you meant any harm by posting this thread, but I wanted to curb the dehumanization of Naomi before it started to get really ugly again.
Frankly, I'm surprised you took it personally, Tabby. The things I said were not directed at you in particular. I do not blame you for posting these pics. And it's not your fault other people were so scathing in their comments about Naomi. As Daisy said, the comments here and in other threads were getting pretty heavy and actually scary. The playful jealousy was turning into something that was getting very vicious.
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I know this has been a long post, but I felt that I needed to respond and make what I said clear. I do not appreciate the personal attacks against me because I hold an unpopular view and I do not see myself as a hypocrite because of anything I've said. I'm deeply sorry if I've offended anyone; nothing that I have said was meant to infuriate or start a fight. I'm sorry people felt this needed to turn into a shouting match. Thank you to those of you who posted comments and participated in this discussion. Hopefully, this never has to happen again. I feel that I've expressed myself clearly and I've done nothing I regret and nothing that goes against what I have always proclaimed were my beliefs and personal values. I would ask that all personal judgements of anyone on this board or anywhere in life, be carefully considered before they are posted. Though this is a message board, the things that go on here are very real. So please, think and act carefully. To use a very old cliche, "walk a mile in their shoes" before you criticize.
~hippy
Hallelujah Here She Comes
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Re: Re: Bear with me, this is long...
Actually, what she said was "people saying things like (insert insult here)" So conceivably she could be referring to insults hurled by other people, using your quotes as examples.
RavenStar said:
Actually, what she said was "people saying things like (insert insult here)" So conceivably she could be referring to insults hurled by other people, using your quotes as examples.
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SO this is all Raven Star's fault!! j/k of course, but I didn't know about the 'she should die' comment and that was what people were upset over. I knew there was another SuperHooch thread, and that there had been several but I never read them all the way through. I really don't know much about it, like I said, I only posted the pics and thought it would be fun since so many of you seemed to have a big joke about her.
Thanks everyone for explaining, it's good to know it wasn't against me personally, but please let me explain why I took it personally, and I'll never mention it again:
*It was my thread. If bitterness was spilling over from another thread, maybe it should have been left in the old thread. It would have made more sense. When everyone just started jumping on the pick on Naomi thing here, and I was the one who started the thread, naturally I assumed it must be me, since I hadn't seen anyone bashing the SuperHooch bashing before. So since it looked like it suddenly started in my thread, I took it personally.
*Add to that the fact that one of the people who made a negative comment toward my thread went to the longass thread in PLEBAns and made a post obviously aimed at me- no, not at Raven Star or anyone in the other thread, ME. So I took that personally.
*Add to all this the fact that, despite all the controversy in my thread, a NEW unflattering SuperHooch thread was started, and participated in actively, even by some of the same ones who had knocked the negative comments about her in my thread! Since that one was going along smoothly, same old fun cracking jokes about SuperHooch, no one getting bent out of shape like in my thread, no one calling it "OLD" like in my thread, even though that thread came AFTER mine and all the controvery, I had to assume it must be ME that was the problem? 
So can anyone see how it looked to me, and why I took it personally??!!
Okay, explaination over. I won't ever mention SuperHooch again, even if everyone else does.
j/k of course, but I didn't know about the 'she should die' comment and that was what people were upset over. I knew there was another SuperHooch thread, and that there had been several but I never read them all the way through. I really don't know much about it, like I said, I only posted the pics and thought it would be fun since so many of you seemed to have a big joke about her.Thanks everyone for explaining, it's good to know it wasn't against me personally, but please let me explain why I took it personally, and I'll never mention it again:
*It was my thread. If bitterness was spilling over from another thread, maybe it should have been left in the old thread. It would have made more sense. When everyone just started jumping on the pick on Naomi thing here, and I was the one who started the thread, naturally I assumed it must be me, since I hadn't seen anyone bashing the SuperHooch bashing before. So since it looked like it suddenly started in my thread, I took it personally.
*Add to that the fact that one of the people who made a negative comment toward my thread went to the longass thread in PLEBAns and made a post obviously aimed at me- no, not at Raven Star or anyone in the other thread, ME. So I took that personally.
*Add to all this the fact that, despite all the controversy in my thread, a NEW unflattering SuperHooch thread was started, and participated in actively, even by some of the same ones who had knocked the negative comments about her in my thread!
Since that one was going along smoothly, same old fun cracking jokes about SuperHooch, no one getting bent out of shape like in my thread, no one calling it "OLD" like in my thread, even though that thread came AFTER mine and all the controvery, I had to assume it must be ME that was the problem? So can anyone see how it looked to me, and why I took it personally??!!
Okay, explaination over. I won't ever mention SuperHooch again, even if everyone else does.
Hallelujah Here She Comes
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Tabby said:
That person felt personally attacked by you for posting her opinion and went to the long thread to post about it because that's where a lot of us go to post things that are bothering us. It was you, not RavenStar, who made negative comments about this person, so that's why that particular post (and no other) was aimed specifically at you.
I certainly can see why at first you took all of this personally. But please realize that there's not always a reason a certain issue comes up in a particular thread. And very rarely will an argument about an actual issue be aimed at a specific poster. I know it's easy to take things personally, but usually that's really not the case.
Are we all done now?
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Sigh, the saddest thing of all is, I was only trying to be funny. This was really twisted and blown way out of proportion. It's just awful when you never know what is going to set someone off. Now I don't think I'll ever post anything again but 'like wow that pic sure is hot!'
Hallelujah Here She Comes
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Tabby said:Sigh, the saddest thing of all is, I was only trying to be funny. This was really twisted and blown way out of proportion. It's just awful when you never know what is going to set someone off. Now I don't think I'll ever post anything again but 'like wow that pic sure is hot!'
If this seriously bothers you that much, then maybe you should do that. But think that would be silly. Just because a person (or people) might disagree with you or might not find what you posted funny doesn't mean you should stop posting! As long as there are no personal attacks and the argument can be kept civil, I don't see what's wrong with a healthy debate, even if it was originally intended to be a joke. And, just so you know, the surest way to 'set someone off' is a personal attack.
And yet again, I'd like to point out that it wasn't even what you said that set anybody off! It was the issue of bashing somebody we don't know, NOT YOU and not your post specifically that was being discussed. But if you really can't stand people disagreeing with you, then by all means, confine your posts to frivolous topics.
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Hallelujah Here She Comes said:
I never made any intentional personal attacks, and I'm sorry if anyone took it that way. I considered what became of this thread to be a personal attack against me. But I'm not alone, too many people are way too touchy and sensitive. When stupid things like hair and SuperHooch's feelings start fights, that's absurd.
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okay...i've been keeping an eye on this thread and i'd like to give my 2 cents....
first of all... i am speaking for myself here...
i am not jealous of superhooch for dating adam--good lord. why would i be jealous of cocaine sniffing ho? yeah she's stinking rich, of course she has tons of boyfriends, and free designer clothes...but so what? she isn't any happier--she tried committing suicide many times.
so, jealous? i don't think so. many groupies have slept with adam--and am i jealous? no. why? cos there's no point in being jealous. jealousy is a waste of an emotion.
and i never liked superhooch, even before she even dated adam.
everyone makes mistakes when dating people. just be careful for what or WHO you wish for.
and lastly, making fun of superhooch will never get old. "superhooch" is a polite term..well more polite than she really deserves.
LONG LIVE SUPERHOOCH!! HAIL TO THE QUEEN SITTING ON HER THRONE!!
first of all... i am speaking for myself here...
i am not jealous of superhooch for dating adam--good lord. why would i be jealous of cocaine sniffing ho? yeah she's stinking rich, of course she has tons of boyfriends, and free designer clothes...but so what? she isn't any happier--she tried committing suicide many times.
so, jealous? i don't think so. many groupies have slept with adam--and am i jealous? no. why? cos there's no point in being jealous. jealousy is a waste of an emotion.
and i never liked superhooch, even before she even dated adam.
everyone makes mistakes when dating people. just be careful for what or WHO you wish for.
and lastly, making fun of superhooch will never get old. "superhooch" is a polite term..well more polite than she really deserves.
LONG LIVE SUPERHOOCH!! HAIL TO THE QUEEN SITTING ON HER THRONE!!
While I personally don't like to bash Naomi, I will say one thing...
The name "Superhooch" makes me laugh.
When I first became a U2 fan and found out Adam had gone out with Naomi, I cut out pictures of her from magazines, made a collage, and hung it up with my U2 stuff on my walls...it's either still in a box somewhere or I might have thrown it out when I had to move.
The name "Superhooch" makes me laugh.
When I first became a U2 fan and found out Adam had gone out with Naomi, I cut out pictures of her from magazines, made a collage, and hung it up with my U2 stuff on my walls...it's either still in a box somewhere or I might have thrown it out when I had to move.
Hallelujah Here She Comes
Rock n' Roll Doggie
Tabby said:
I'm not going to argue with you anymore.
MonaVox
Rock n' Roll Doggie
I'm too otherwise happy to worry aboot thisI actually use the term "Superhooch" to describe a lot of girls here (School I mean; not PLEBA)
Sssh don't tell 'em I said that Anyway
It's kind of good when something like this happens. I like it when people can state their own cases maturely and reasonably
Ashley
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FallingStar said:
He will keep on thrusting - I will help him if neccessary.
I love that signature too....it's just so, so, so thought provoking. erm, yah.
*stares*
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Unfortunately, it's a tad on the wide side.
a hooch is a nutteFallingStar said:What means Superhooch? What is a hooch?
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i just read the rest of the thread. imo, i think everyone needs to calm down. as it's been said, since none of us know naomi personally, who cares what each of us thinks of her? i'm sure even if naomi was reading this, if she's such a heartless bitch as many think, i don't think she'd care! and even if she is really a nice girl, i don't think she'd take the bashing so seriously, as i'm sure she knows that a lot of people don't think she's too great of a person.
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why thank you!
why thank you! I'm not sure if it's the best ever, but thanks!
RavenStar said:
why thank you! I'm not sure if it's the best ever, but thanks!
Thanks for using the smaller pic...I do appreciate it.
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I love it when you gals are so sweet and cooperative.
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I love it when you gals are so sweet and cooperative.
Ashley
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Bonochick said:Thanks for using the smaller pic...I do appreciate it.
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Yer welcome!!
Ashley...did you resize the pic? It's kinda wide again...
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