Euro 2012 thread - Page 9

nielsgov · 06-20-2012, 07:59 AM

Why does everyone keep forgetting that the Ukraine attacker stood offside in the first place!? Of course it makes it more sensational...

Vincent Vega · 06-20-2012, 11:19 AM

It is easy for an offside to be mistaken or not clear enough and there's the rule, when in doubt decide in favour of the attacker. But if you have a dedicated goal referee and he doesn't see that the ball is in, while for years you have avoided and postponed discussing the introduction of some technology for this matter (which even before the cup was decided to be a topic after the cup) then it's a whole other issue.
The mistake of not seeing that a ball is inside the goal is not negated by the fact that there was a mistake before.

nielsgov · 06-20-2012, 11:37 AM

I totally agree with you but I'm talking about the fact that Ukraine "lost" a goal. They didn't. Of course it's awful that something like this happened again but I don't think Ukraine should complain.

And the offside was pretty clear as well, not just one foot too far.

Galeongirl · 06-21-2012, 08:15 AM

The offside wasn't caught either, so it should've been a goal.

Tonight I'll be rooting for the Czech republic.

nielsgov · 06-21-2012, 09:45 AM

The one thing that the mistake proves is that goalline technology is really needed.

And I hope Ronaldo scores a hattrick today.

PennyLanePHINS · 06-21-2012, 01:36 PM

Czech Republic, Germany, Spain, England.

toscano · 06-21-2012, 05:52 PM

Czechs played for a penalty shootout. Good riddance.

nielsgov · 06-22-2012, 11:49 AM

What a legend.

Galeongirl · 06-22-2012, 02:06 PM

Oh Balotelli, you're a hoot. Bit of a rebellious child though.

The Germans are playing strong tonight, hope they can pull it off.

domo-kun · 06-22-2012, 03:04 PM

1-1 For Greece-Germany game now. That was unexpected.

domo-kun · 06-22-2012, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nielsgov

What a legend.

Weirdo.

Btw. Greece crowd is going nuts!!

Galeongirl · 06-22-2012, 03:17 PM

This is going well! First half was German domination, then 2nd half the Greek came back. But now it's 3-1. Germany found their mojo again, wouldn't surprise me if moar goals happen.

domo-kun · 06-22-2012, 03:21 PM

Prizeshooting for Germany, very nice goals!! Greek keeper makes it easy for them tough.

nielsgov · 06-22-2012, 03:57 PM

What a terrible goalkeeper. I don't think he held on to a single ball.

toscano · 06-22-2012, 04:05 PM

From the BBC Text updates:

According to Opta, Germany had 75% of the possession in the game. 75%! That is three-quarters of the game! They also made 709 passes to Greece's 220, had 26 attempts to Greece's 10 and won the corner count 10-1. It was men against foetus's out there.

domo-kun · 06-23-2012, 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toscano

From the BBC Text updates:

According to Opta, Germany had 75% of the possession in the game. 75%! That is three-quarters of the game! They also made 709 passes to Greece's 220, had 26 attempts to Greece's 10 and won the corner count 10-1. It was men against foetus's out there.

A shame Germany didn't score more.

nielsgov · 06-23-2012, 04:03 PM

Why is each Spain game so boring to watch? France was pretty shitty.

I hope Portugal beat them in the semis.

toscano · 06-23-2012, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nielsgov

Why is each Spain game so boring to watch?

Because what many pundits praise as skill is just a thinly disguised form of catenaccio.

Death by square passing.

Boring as hell.

It was the same in the WC.

speedracer · 06-23-2012, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nielsgov

Why is each Spain game so boring to watch? France was pretty shitty.

I hope Portugal beat them in the semis.

What is Spain (or Barca, for that matter) supposed to do when an opponent packs it in on defense and shows nothing in terms of counterattack (and also if their own back four is somewhat sketchy as well)? If they don't need to score, no reason to turn the ball over.

speedracer · 06-23-2012, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toscano

Because what many pundits praise as skill is just a thinly disguised form of catenaccio.

Death by square passing.

Boring as hell.

It was the same in the WC.

If it's not skill, it should be easy to steal the ball back then.

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Vincent Vega Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Berlin Posts: 6,745 Local Time: 10:09 PM	It is easy for an offside to be mistaken or not clear enough and there's the rule, when in doubt decide in favour of the attacker. But if you have a dedicated goal referee and he doesn't see that the ball is in, while for years you have avoided and postponed discussing the introduction of some technology for this matter (which even before the cup was decided to be a topic after the cup) then it's a whole other issue. The mistake of not seeing that a ball is inside the goal is not negated by the fact that there was a mistake before. __________________

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06-20-2012, 11:37 AM	#163
nielsgov Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Belgium Posts: 8,740 Local Time: 10:09 PM	I totally agree with you but I'm talking about the fact that Ukraine "lost" a goal. They didn't. Of course it's awful that something like this happened again but I don't think Ukraine should complain. And the offside was pretty clear as well, not just one foot too far.

06-21-2012, 09:45 AM	#165
nielsgov Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Belgium Posts: 8,740 Local Time: 10:09 PM	The one thing that the mistake proves is that goalline technology is really needed. And I hope Ronaldo scores a hattrick today.

06-21-2012, 01:36 PM	#166
PennyLanePHINS Refugee Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: NY Posts: 1,214 Local Time: 04:09 PM	Czech Republic, Germany, Spain, England.

06-21-2012, 05:52 PM	#167
toscano Refugee Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,032 Local Time: 02:09 PM	Czechs played for a penalty shootout. Good riddance.

06-22-2012, 11:49 AM	#168
nielsgov Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Belgium Posts: 8,740 Local Time: 10:09 PM	What a legend.

06-22-2012, 03:04 PM	#170
domo-kun ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 12,581 Local Time: 11:09 PM	1-1 For Greece-Germany game now. That was unexpected.

06-22-2012, 03:21 PM	#173
domo-kun ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 12,581 Local Time: 11:09 PM	Prizeshooting for Germany, very nice goals!! Greek keeper makes it easy for them tough.

06-22-2012, 03:57 PM	#174
nielsgov Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Belgium Posts: 8,740 Local Time: 10:09 PM	What a terrible goalkeeper. I don't think he held on to a single ball.

06-22-2012, 04:05 PM	#175
toscano Refugee Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,032 Local Time: 02:09 PM	From the BBC Text updates: According to Opta, Germany had 75% of the possession in the game. 75%! That is three-quarters of the game! They also made 709 passes to Greece's 220, had 26 attempts to Greece's 10 and won the corner count 10-1. It was men against foetus's out there.

06-23-2012, 04:03 PM	#177
nielsgov Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Belgium Posts: 8,740 Local Time: 10:09 PM	Why is each Spain game so boring to watch? France was pretty shitty. I hope Portugal beat them in the semis.