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Old 03-23-2014, 12:21 PM   #281
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CheersIt was but the organisation itself is incredibly well set-up, they've been going 60 years, and they train you for a couple of months before they even let you near a phone call. Some of their trainers (veteran volunteers) are some of the damn best actors I've seen in role play.

Plus we would sort of debrief with the other volunteers after every call, making sure everyone was ok and what not. The calls were difficult but we also dealt with just a lot of everyday problems, you know difficulties with family, sexuality issues, worries about finances.

It's just an incredibly good and important organisation, and confidentiality is stricter than anywhere else i've worked (even more so than any hospital i've worked at).
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Old 03-23-2014, 12:40 PM   #282
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That's impressive LJT!
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Old 03-23-2014, 02:59 PM   #283
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I can no longer deal with those whose intolerance of dissent is so ingrained they seek to shutdown conversation with personal attacks and pejoratives such as bigot, racist, homophobe, uneducated, uncompassionate, mean, the cause of suicides and, according to Philly, evil.

I can no longer deal with those that assume to know me, my history, my motives or my life outside of U2 Interference.

No one here understands me, my humor, or intellect and I'm been told over and over how much better things will be once old, white, conservative Christians like me are gone.

It will never get better.

So what else is there but to end it?



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BREAKING: INDY500 Solves National Suicide Crisis by Pointing Out Depressed People Should "Get Over It"
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Also, I said you are ignorant and sad, not evil. As someone noted above, what about suicide do you think we all don't understand? You have made it abundantly clear what you don't understand, but what is it that you think we are all missing? And don't just say something fucking idiotic like "Do you all believe in free will or not?"
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Just a warning before anyone continues reading, it may be upsetting/triggering if similar to any personal situation.

I used to work for a voluntary organisation in the UK called The Samaritans, its basically a hotline for those dealing with any kind of personal crisis and needing someone to talk to, and most often this was suicide.

We would often receive phone calls at 2 in the morning, with someone having taken an overdose or bleeding out. They often just wanted to talk to someone in their final moments, just someone to be with them. I can tell you that it is an 'experience' being on the end of a phone line as the person goes silent on the other end. But that would be selfish, because those calls aren't about me, but having compassion and empathy for another human being.

Samaritan policy was we would never tell anyone not to commit suicide, we recognised their free will to make their own choices regarding their life. Our phones wouldn't give us their numbers, emergency services could only be called if we the caller wanted us to, though we would encourage the caller if still able to call them themselves as we occasionally got given fake addresses.

The people who called while suicidal, were not selfish people, their reasoning at the time, though flawed by all sorts of factors was often they were doing what they considered for the best even for those around them, that people would be better off without them. Yes we did encourage people to think of what happens 'after' they pass, such as who do they think will find them, do they have arrangements made, who would attend their funeral, the consequences were important to think about. This did dissuade some people which was great, but being their for people just to talk to and have someone listen was great enough in itself.

For you to suggest none of us have thought this entirely through is patronising in the extreme, you can shove it.

I really never get the Christian moralising on suicide (which I am assuming this is where your stance is driven from, suicide= mortal sin etc), since what you consider the most selfless act ever (Jesus dying for our sins) is basically suicide by cop. But hey martyrdom is all noble and crap.
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CheersIt was but the organisation itself is incredibly well set-up, they've been going 60 years, and they train you for a couple of months before they even let you near a phone call. Some of their trainers (veteran volunteers) are some of the damn best actors I've seen in role play.

Plus we would sort of debrief with the other volunteers after every call, making sure everyone was ok and what not. The calls were difficult but we also dealt with just a lot of everyday problems, you know difficulties with family, sexuality issues, worries about finances.

It's just an incredibly good and important organisation, and confidentiality is stricter than anywhere else i've worked (even more so than any hospital i've worked at).
LJT, I want to echo Martha and Galeon's comments by saying I am impressed and I think it must've taken a lot of courage and strength to deal with each call. While I don't know your stance on God, I just want to also say, God Bless, just to say I appreciate your efforts, that's all.
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Was Indy's last post supposed to be funny?
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I believe he was trying to make a point. And he failed, spectacularly.
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ljt's post is heartbreaking. that's so great that a service like that is offered and thank you for having volunteered. i can't even imagine how mentally and emotionally draining it was.

and then there's indy's post. whether you're making a joke or trying to turn around and make this about you, it's offensive. it's one thing to have a completely different opinion, but stuff like this is trolling. if you can't discuss your opinions in a civil tone, then you'll eventually find yourself suspended.
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Samaritan policy was we would never tell anyone not to commit suicide, we recognised their free will to make their own choices regarding their life. Our phones wouldn't give us their numbers, emergency services could only be called if we the caller wanted us to, though we would encourage the caller if still able to call them themselves as we occasionally got given fake addresses.
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