Sorry but that's BS. Suicide is always a tragedy but always a choice, an act of selfishness and cowardice that leaves those behind feeling guilty and feeling helpless and to to blame.
Am I equally at blame for the suicide rate among the chronically depressed and unhappy because I'm one happy SOB?
Humans have freewill. They have an intellect in which to overcome their genes, environment or emotions. But I know, it's mean to think people are ultimately responsible for their actions.
Off topic. All I have to say about that.
I think we can officially strike the claim to empathy.
Sorry but that's BS. Suicide is always a tragedy but always a choice, an act of selfishness and cowardice that leaves those behind feeling guilty and feeling helpless and to to blame.
I won't even comment on the absurdity of the "intellect can overcome genes" argument. Have you ever taken a molecular biology class? I mean, this stuff is like 101.
What's left to say really? I just hope to God you don't have anything to do with people with mental health issues. The mind boggles.
Do you think humans have freewill?
Let me de-generalize my ALL with All suicides*Yes.
But the degree of free will is affected by a person's mental state.
It's a very absurd thing for you to say that suicide is always a choice, and a selfish and cowardly one. You have no understanding of mental health, that much is obvious.
I have spoken often of my aunt, who was a violent, paranoid schizophrenic. Who attempted suicide 3 times before she finally succeeded. When I was a little girl, she had to be kept away from children after she announced plans to boil my cousin and I in a cauldron and cook a stew with us. She was completely mentally ill and absolutely non-functional in society when she was off her meds, which was more often than not.
You just have no clue. It's not that it makes me angry, but sad at how ignorant you are.
Ironically this^ in a thread about humans feeling or thinking they are something other than their biological (chromosomal) sex.
Do you really think I believe someone can "think" themselves to to grow taller than their genes would otherwise determine? Or change their eye color or otherwise defy their DNA? NO, what I am talking about is those that seek to blame bad or unhealthy behavior on their genes. Or their environment. Or their emotions. It's a copout.
Do you think humans have freewill?
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This would make an interesting topic as well.
Is the de-institutionalization that allows so many mentally ill people to wander our streets forgoing their medicine, counseling and other treatments often presenting as a danger to themselves as well as others... is that really compassion?
With President Reagan and the Republicans taking over, the Mental Health Systems Act was discarded before the ink had dried and the CMHC funds were simply block granted to the states.
I would love to have this conversation.
The Republicans would support the increased social spending on the mentally ill, I take it?
So he wants insane asylums back?
To be honest, there is a valid point to be had about how some jurisdictions make it nearly impossible for the state to hold mentally ill people in certain circumstances. In the name of personal liberty we have sacrificed some amount of safety (for both the patient and the public at large), and this is worthy of looking into. I actually wrote a paper for it which was published in a legal journal back in 2008 when I was still a law school student.
The Republican God didn't.
Ronald Reagan’s shameful legacy: Violence, the homeless, mental illness - Salon.com
With President Reagan and the Republicans taking over, the Mental Health Systems Act was discarded before the ink had dried and the CMHC funds were simply block granted to the states.
Some of us are old enough to remember this.
What did the states do with the money?
Are states powerless to address the problem? Is the answer to every problem a big, bloated program administered by the geniuses in Washington D.C? Why would a federal War on Mental Illness be any more effective than their War on Poverty or War on Drugs?
Sorry but that's BS. Suicide is always a tragedy but always a choice, an act of selfishness and cowardice that leaves those behind feeling guilty and feeling helpless and to to blame.
Am I equally at blame for the suicide rate among the chronically depressed and unhappy because I'm one happy SOB?
Humans have freewill. They have an intellect in which to overcome their genes, environment or emotions. But I know, it's mean to think people are ultimately responsible for their actions.
Off topic. All I have to say about that.
It's not so much cruel as very telling how he has no idea what it is like to feel so incredibly miserable and depressed and worthless that the only way out would be to kill yourself. Also that he has no respect for people who have felt that way, because he doesn't understand it. Sounds familiar doesn't it...
INDY, this post is cruel and heartless toward anyone who has seriously considered taking their own lives for any number of reasons.
Bigotry, hows that?Your desperate attempts to justify your bigotry has only revealed your ignorance and horrible lack of empathy.
I've been ignoring your posts as of late, but this I could not ignore. This is really sad that you would stoop this low, and even hurt anyone who saw this post, particularly those you gave no kindness to
It's not so much cruel as very telling how he has no idea what it is like to feel so incredibly miserable and depressed and worthless that the only way out would be to kill yourself. Also that he has no respect for people who have felt that way, because he doesn't understand it. Sounds familiar doesn't it...