Re: Re: Re: U2: Showmanship or Musicality?
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Jack In The Box said:this thread is funny
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Jack In The Box said:this thread is funny
jick said:He also had a long winding speech ("fuck the revolution") in the R&H version of Sunday Bloody Sunday. Bono sure makes long pointless speeches but at least he delivers with short catchy punchlines ("Fuck the revolution", "this is out tribe") that just begs for the crowd to scream and react.
Axver said:
The "fuck the Revolution" speech is long-winded and pointless? That has to be one of the most exciting U2 moments for me. That's a classic speech. And if you think it's pointless, you obviously haven't listened to the bit on RAH just before SBS where the band is talking.
Leeloo said:I dislike long winded speeches by self righteous U2 fans defending long winded speeches at concerts Look, it's a concert. People pay to hear music, not be preached to. Oh I know, the self righteous types will go "if he reaches one person or saves one life it was worth it! " There is a time and place for everything, and most concertgoers are either too stoned or too hyper to even let it sink in. I have nothing against Bono's speeches personally, and actually enjoy them. It's just the holier than thou preachy fan types that irritate me.
jick said:Or for concert purposes, that wasted time could have been an extra stars verse for WOWY or yet another snippet in Bad. I don't know about you guys, but I dig U2 for the music and not for the speeches. Hell, I don't even have an mp3 of Bono's Harvard speech. U2 are musicians, they should be about the music. I have no qualms with a little showboating, and crowd-connecting - but if the tradeoff means less songs will be played then I have qualms.
Also, another major issue which hasn't been tackled in this thread so far is the fact that U2 has "ghost musicians" playing backstage.
if funny is some kind of new slang for annoying then I agreeJack In The Box said:this thread is funny
martha said:Apparently, jick has never seen Bruce Springsteen perform live. He's really the king of long-winded speeches and stories.
martha said:Apparently, jick has never seen Bruce Springsteen perform live. He's really the king of long-winded speeches and stories.
jick said:Yes, I have not seen any Bruce shows. I am not a fan of his music and I am not a big fan of his opportunistic behavior to sell 9/11 down people's throats and take advantage of the tragedy with his The Rising album.
nick_u2 said:I am a big Bruce fan and at least for the most recent Denver concerts he had no opening act. U2 did have an opening act which takes up, at least from my experience, a couple hours. I don't mind it but it would be a long night for some people and so that I think is why they don't play three hours. I know they could do it though.
jick said:The Rising album.
jick said:
I believe Bruce has earned the right to give his pointless rants
Headache in a Suitcase said:pee break
martha said:
pee breaks rule!
david said:The fact that U2 mess up, and the fact that Bono talks to the crowd gives off the impression that they're human and that their live shows are more organic and natural rather than feeling mechanical and too predictable. I'd rather a band try to sound totally different live, rather than just trying to reproduce their CDs live note for note. Often, U2 songs took on a whole different direction and sounded way better live than their album versions, songs like Bad for example.
Leeloo said:So don't drink anything an hour before you go in. You may be thirsty but avoiding arena bathrooms is worth it!
verte76 said:
I agree. A U2 show is "alive". It's not rote, technical perfection. It's creativity, four human beings *creating* sound, creating vibes, creating emotions, doing everything human, from the ridiculous to the sublime, and making every single person a part of it. If I wanted rote, technical perfection I'd be studying Renaissance art in the classical wing of the art museum (I'm a visual artist, not a musician, so that's how I relate). Perfect form, perfect technique, and, depending on your taste, anything from sublime beauty to absolute, utter boredom. It's pretty but leaves me rather cold.
jick said:Also, while a band does not have to be note perfect to the album track, they should at least avoid hitting sour notes and play like a cohesive unit.