u2 360 Boxscore

[U2FanPeter]

Didn't Sydney only do half of what they did in 2006?

 

[The_acrobat]

Let's compare:

Brisbane
$4,252,140- 50,094- Vertigo, 1 show
$11,031,839- 85,745- 360, 2 shows

Sydney (same venue)
$18,538,724- 206,568- Vertigo, 3 shows
$13,694,929- 107,155- 360, 2 shows

Melbourne (same venue)
$11,188,720- 127,275- Veritgo, 2 shows
$13,460,407- 105,312- 360, 2 shows

Auckland (same venue)
$6,216,819- 84,475- Vertigo, 2 shows
$8,819,418- 93,519- 360, 2 shows

Adelaide
$5,058,962- 60,000- Vertigo, 1 show

Perth
$13,910,989- 108,706- 360, 2 shows

Vertigo
Total Gross- $45,255,365
Attendance- $528,412

360
Total Gross-$60,918,582
Attendance-500,437


My question is: How empty were the 2nd shows in Brisbane, Sydney and Melbourne? The venues were 10-20% bigger than they were in 2006 due to the 360 setup, yet Vertigo kills 360 in terms of attendance in Melbourne and Sydney.

 

[U2FanPeter]

My question is: How empty were the 2nd shows in Brisbane, Sydney and Melbourne? The venues were 10-20% bigger than they were in 2006 due to the 360 setup, yet Vertigo kills 360 in terms of attendance in Melbourne and Sydney.

The unused sections were somewhat balanced between first and second nigts. Not like past tours where one night had 30,000 more peope than the next in the same venue.

 

[roy keane]

I'm more into attendance stats. A year ago it looked unlikely for 360 tour to break Stones record of 6.5 million tickets sold ( Voodoo Lounge or Steel Wheels, I cant remember which was it). But now it is certain that record will be broken as well. With 5 million tickets sold so far and whole American leg ahead it may even reach 7 million. And I believe no one will be able to beat that number in near future.

 

[doctorwho]

My question is: How empty were the 2nd shows in Brisbane, Sydney and Melbourne? The venues were 10-20% bigger than they were in 2006 due to the 360 setup, yet Vertigo kills 360 in terms of attendance in Melbourne and Sydney.

Don't you have this backwards?

I'm assuming the 360 set up takes away seats. As such, the Vertigo shows were bigger in 2006 than they were in 2011 for 360. There were more seats available for Vertigo, which indeed were sold. Less seats for for 360 means lower attendance.

However, if there were more seats for 360 (for some reason), then clearly U2 didn't sell as well in Australia. However, 2011 has a worldwide recession. 2006 were considered the "glory years", in terms of the economy. It's not surprising if the shows didn't fully sell out.

 

[prbiker15]

Don't you have this backwards?

I'm assuming the 360 set up takes away seats. As such, the Vertigo shows were bigger in 2006 than they were in 2011 for 360. There were more seats available for Vertigo, which indeed were sold. Less seats for for 360 means lower attendance.

However, if there were more seats for 360 (for some reason), then clearly U2 didn't sell as well in Australia. However, 2011 has a worldwide recession. 2006 were considered the "glory years", in terms of the economy. It's not surprising if the shows didn't fully sell out.

The fact that they were also competing with Bon Jovi and other artists at the same time also led to market saturation. But I'm suprised the attendances were around the same as Vertigo (almost 30,000 people less for 360 if I remember) which is still good. They would have a larger attendance if other major acts weren't touring.

 

[The_acrobat]

Clearly since the 360 tour utilizes the whole stadium, while Vertigo had an endstage production, the 360 tour had the potential for more people. It's science.

 

[U2FanPeter]

Let's compare:

Brisbane
$4,252,140- 50,094- Vertigo, 1 show
$11,031,839- 85,745- 360, 2 shows

Sydney (same venue)
$18,538,724- 206,568- Vertigo, 3 shows
$13,694,929- 107,155- 360, 2 shows

Melbourne (same venue)
$11,188,720- 127,275- Veritgo, 2 shows
$13,460,407- 105,312- 360, 2 shows

Auckland (same venue)
$6,216,819- 84,475- Vertigo, 2 shows
$8,819,418- 93,519- 360, 2 shows

Nightly average between Vertigo and 360:

Brisbane:
50,000 vs 43,000

Sydney:
64,000 vs. 54,000

Melbourne:
64,000 vs. 53,000

With 360 having 20% more available seating capacity.

What other 360 cities were a small step backwards for attendance figures from Vertigo?

 

[hedge]

They are hardly small steps backwards Peter.
Those are significant numbers.
Unless there was something we don't know about the seating configurations at those stadiums - overhangs, poor sightlines, refurb work, health & safelty demands - those figures whilst excellent in the current climate are a big drop off from Vertigo.

Very strange demand in Aus/NZ - immediate sellouts of the first shows - then promotors announce a second show in each city and the demand just wasn't there. Apart from Perth which i seem to remember second show went on sale immediately after the first one sold out - the other cities second show sales were delayed a week - lost momentum maybe?
Stories circlutated before the Auz/NZ leg that they had sold only 30000 tickets for the second Brisbane show. Still keep it in perspective - to gross $11 in Brisbane and $13 in Melbourne is still a hell of a result

The only other 360 v Vertigo cities that i can think of that saw a drop in numbers were Glasgow and Munich. Oh, and Dublin - but there was a major reason for that with them having no seats sold behind the stage.

 

[U2FanPeter]

They are hardly small steps backwards Peter.
Those are significant numbers.
Unless there was something we don't know about the seating configurations at those stadiums - overhangs, poor sightlines, refurb work, health & safelty demands - those figures whilst excellent in the current climate are a big drop off from Vertigo.

Very strange demand in Aus/NZ - immediate sellouts of the first shows - then promotors announce a second show in each city and the demand just wasn't there. Apart from Perth which i seem to remember second show went on sale immediately after the first one sold out - the other cities second show sales were delayed a week - lost momentum maybe?
Stories circlutated before the Auz/NZ leg that they had sold only 30000 tickets for the second Brisbane show. Still keep it in perspective - to gross $11 in Brisbane and $13 in Melbourne is still a hell of a result

For me it further dilutes their interpretation of official "sell outs".

I think skipping 2001 then having 2006 delayed made for pent up demand which didn't happen in 2010.

U2 have sold some seats with dodgy sightlines on this tour, though some were very low ticket prices.

Weirdly, I don't think ticket prices were that much of an issue down under. Top tier sold and the nosebleeds went unclaimed.

 

[The_acrobat]

So basically, I don't think we'll see a U2 stadium tour in Australia for quite awhile.

 

[ChargedVT]

So basically, I don't think we'll see a U2 stadium tour in Australia for quite awhile.

Oh they'll be back, just in 4-5 years again. There will always be demand to see U2 here in Australia, it's just that next time they will probably just do one really big show in each city.
I still think that, when you consider everyone had already spent their money on Bon Jovi and the Eagles, the fact that U2 sold the tickets they did was nothing short of amazing. Who else could pull off the equivalent ticket sales of NINE arena shows in each city? (Besides AC/DC )

 

[cobl04]

Overreactions.

 

[robbrecon72]

Bon Jovi had the top boxscore for the week.

Tokyo Dome
Nov 30/Dec 1
60,313/60,313
$8,054,976
2/2

 

[U2FanPeter]

Bon Jovi had the top boxscore for the week.

Tokyo Dome
Nov 30/Dec 1
60,313/60,313
$8,054,976
2/2

Averaged 30k a night in a place that holds over 50k for shows.

$133/head is impressive for a band that's currently selling $15 nosebleed tickets to fill arenas in North America.

 

[robbrecon72]

incase anyone was wondering u2's santiago show did not show up on the boxscore list this week.

#2 Kenny Chesney and 4 openers sold 50,548 tickets to 1 show at James Raymond Stadium in Tampa Florida to a gross of $4,399,810.

#1 Michael Buble and Naturally 7 sold 44,171 tickets to 4 shows at Rod Laver Arena in Melbourne with a gross of $4,880,720.

 

[randy_watson]

Soooooooo..... any word on the gross totals from S. America yet??

 

[robbrecon72]

I gotta run to class, but ill be back to report the full stats, but here are the boxscores today.

u2
Sao Paulo
$32,754,065
269,491

B. Aires
$20,550,302
172,029

Santiago
$7,550,446


$60,854,813 for only 7 shows in south america!!!
77,765

 

[robbrecon72]

Boxscores today

U2
Sao Paulo
$32,754,065
269,491
3/3

Buenos Aires
$20,550,302
172,029
3/3

Santiago
$7,550,446
77,765
1/1

South America totals
Gross-$60,854,813
Average gross-$8,693,544
Attendance-519,285
Average attendance-74,183
Shows-7

U2 360 Tour Total Stats to Date
Total Gross-$580,454,297
Attendance-5,570,560
Average Gross-$6,828,874
Average Attendance-65,536
Average Ticket Price-$104
Shows-85
Sellouts-85

 

[doctorwho]

U2 360 Tour Total Stats to Date
Total Gross-$580,454,297
Attendance-5,570,560
Average Gross-$6,828,874
Average Attendance-65,536
Average Ticket Price-$104
Shows-85
Sellouts-85

If only U2 were popular like the Rolling Stones.

 

[randy_watson]

anyone know the numbers on the Mexico City shows yet?

 

[prbiker15]

Not sure if we'll get the official numbers this week. Hope I'm wrong though.

 

[CosmoKramer]

Not sure if we'll get the official numbers this week. Hope I'm wrong though.

Expect them next week or the following. The boxscore should read something like 3 shows about 315,000 with a gross of roughly $32-34 million!

 

[U2FanPeter]

Hoping to get individual numbers rather than group number. I'm curious how high the weekend shows got since the Wednesday might have been 5-20k fewer depending on which source can be believed.

I'm also curious which records they broke aside from single night/residency within the 360 tour itself.

Don't think they broke the single night event record, which belongs to a sporting game or Mr. Vatican. Plus MJ did 5 nights in the early 90's. A huge latin act did a center stage show at the venue as well.

 

[CosmoKramer]

Hoping to get individual numbers rather than group number. I'm curious how high the weekend shows got since the Wednesday might have been 5-20k fewer depending on which source can be believed.

I'm also curious which records they broke aside from single night/residency within the 360 tour itself.

Don't think they broke the single night event record, which belongs to a sporting game or Mr. Vatican. Plus MJ did 5 nights in the early 90's. A huge latin act did a center stage show at the venue as well.

What is the single night event record? I would imagine that they will at least be close.

 

[U2FanPeter]

What is the single night event record? I would imagine that they will at least be close.

The venue itself should know, though few of the numbers got to Billboard.

There's been claims of big soccer or a special NFL game doing 115-120k. Now sure if the WWF have gone there. When the Pope came they do seating on the floor and all seating in the stands - free tickets? Also the Jaguares did a 360 show maybe a decade ago and I can't find any attendance figure. I also don't know if the venue has had some pricey shows like Soccer, NFL, 3 tenors having very expensive primo seats.

U2 did break some personal records, but U2.com makes no specific mention of breaking anyone else's records. Not even residency gross record which they would certainly hit.

If u2 only release the full tally, with Wed having slightly fewer people, then U2 fans will never know the U2 single night stadium attendance record.

 

[CosmoKramer]

The venue itself should know, though few of the numbers got to Billboard.

There's been claims of big soccer or a special NFL game doing 115-120k. Now sure if the WWF have gone there. When the Pope came they do seating on the floor and all seating in the stands - free tickets? Also the Jaguares did a 360 show maybe a decade ago and I can't find any attendance figure. I also don't know if the venue has had some pricey shows like Soccer, NFL, 3 tenors having very expensive primo seats.

U2 did break some personal records, but U2.com makes no specific mention of breaking anyone else's records. Not even residency gross record which they would certainly hit.

If u2 only release the full tally, with Wed having slightly fewer people, then U2 fans will never know the U2 single night stadium attendance record.

If they average over 100k per night, which they should, would that be a stadium record for highest average attendance for a multiple date performance? I know for Paris and Spain they had two shows that averaged in the 90's but these THREE shows will eclipse that number. I can't imagine another artist performing a minimum of two shows to a 100k avg attendance per night, since you can only achieve such a number in a select number of stadium venues and you would need to use a stage configuration that maxs the potential attendance. I would think this average could even rival multiple night engagement attendance averages in outdoor venues too (festivals even?).

 

[U2FanPeter]

If they average over 100k per night, which they should, would that be a stadium record for highest average attendance for a multiple date performance? I know for Paris and Spain they had two shows that averaged in the 90's but these THREE shows will eclipse that number. I can't imagine another artist performing a minimum of two shows to a 100k avg attendance per night, since you can only achieve such a number in a select number of stadium venues and you would need to use a stage configuration that maxs the potential attendance. I would think this average could even rival multiple night engagement attendance averages in outdoor venues too (festivals even?).

U2's 3 nights in Dublin for 360 or Vertigo is perhaps their "residency" record. ZooTv Wembley over 4 nights is also up there. Those 3 records were all under 300k.

Michael Jackson sold out 5 nights at Aztec, which is possibly/likely still the venue record for a run of shows. Total somewhere in the 400-500k range.

Popmart Italy was 150,000(plus thousands of gatecrashers) and Glastonbury is a similar number.

The Jacksons and Springsteen did about 4 shows each at the Colisuem in the early 80's. Over 350k total. Springsteen also did an insane number of stadium shows around NYC in late 2003 - upwards of 700k total.

There are several festivals with attendance creeping close to 100k including Lollapallooza Chicago.

 

[U2FanPeter]

If they average over 100k per night, which they should, would that be a stadium record for highest average attendance for a multiple date performance?

JFK Phili had some big numbers with more than one night for Floyd/Stones.

Some acts may have played Maracana in South America more than one night.

Let me double check.

 

[U2FanPeter]

Oasis(2 nights mid 90's), Robbie(3 nights 2003) each average 125k/night when they played Knebworth.