U2 360 Boxscore Discussion

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[U2FloridaFan]

And if you believe every show was a sellout and you think U2 has played to largest crowd for a concert by single artist in USA then I have a great deal on some swamp land opps I mean developable land in Florida I would like to sell you.....

It is funny that a band of u2 level has to play with the #'s just to make it all look so good. Just play the shows count the money and head back to Ireland and save the world....
I blame live Nation as much as U2 for deceiving the public. They got to make it look good for 2010. Keep the fever running!!!!!
Goldman Sachs might be a great sponsor for 2010.

It's funny, I read this post but I was scrolled down so far that I could not see the poster on this comment but....I had no doubt when I scrolled up that I would find this post attributed to Badu2fan. Does the negativity never end?

 

[fedeu2]

And if you believe every show was a sellout and you think U2 has played to largest crowd for a concert by single artist in USA then I have a great deal on some swamp land opps I mean developable land in Florida I would like to sell you.....

It is funny that a band of u2 level has to play with the #'s just to make it all look so good. Just play the shows count the money and head back to Ireland and save the world....
I blame live Nation as much as U2 for deceiving the public. They got to make it look good for 2010. Keep the fever running!!!!!
Goldman Sachs might be a great sponsor for 2010.

All tickets put on sale were bought, so yes, every show was a sell out. Certainly not all of them were full house sell out. As for Pasadena, the industry considers it the largest attended (paid) concert by a single artist ever in the US so that´s enough for me.

 

[andyuk]

Why is it an unfair comparison? In fact, given the size and success of this tour, the Stones are the only other group to compare U2 with. How many artists can sell 50,000 tickets in Norman Oaklahoma and sell 50,000+ tickets in France, Canada, Germany, Spain, Italy, Poland, Croatia, ect...

The Stones, U2 & maybe Madonna...MAYBE

Stones do not sell out in Europe! even on their own patch in UK they failed to sell out a whole stadium and in Paris it was less than half full!

U2 are way ahead of the Stones in Europe

 

[digitize]

And if you believe every show was a sellout and you think U2 has played to largest crowd for a concert by single artist in USA then I have a great deal on some swamp land opps I mean developable land in Florida I would like to sell you.....

It is funny that a band of u2 level has to play with the #'s just to make it all look so good. Just play the shows count the money and head back to Ireland and save the world....
I blame live Nation as much as U2 for deceiving the public. They got to make it look good for 2010. Keep the fever running!!!!!
Goldman Sachs might be a great sponsor for 2010.

I'd like to see "Enron Presents: The U2 360 Tour" personally. Would have been epic in Houston.

 

[Maoilbheannacht]

Just a couple of minor corrections to the list. The show at the Georgia Dome did not set the attendance record. That still belongs to the Backstreet Boys at a little over 73,000. The show at the BC Place Stadium does not appear to have set the gross record. That still belongs to 3 Tenors show with over $7 million in gross.



U2 360 TOUR

1ST LEG EUROPE

June 30, July 2, 2009
Barcelona, Spain
Camp Nou
GROSS: $19,825,497 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 182,055 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $108.90

July 7-8, 2009
Milan, Italy
Stadio San Siro
GROSS: $15,168,799 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 153,806 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $98.62

July 11-12, 2009
Paris, France
Stade De France
GROSS: $20,902,760 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 186,544 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $112.05

July 15, 2009
Nice, France
Stade Charles Erhmann, Nice
GROSS: $6,261,208 (GROSS)
ATTENDANCE: 55,641 (GROSS)
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS :1
Average Ticket Price: $112.53

July 18, 2009
Berlin, Germany
Olympic Stadium
GROSS: $9,169,830 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 88,265 (RECORD)
SHOWS :1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $103.89

July 20-21, 2009
Amsterdam, Netherlands
Amsterdam Arena
GROSS: $12,583,998
ATTENDANCE: 125,866
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $99.98

July 24-25, 27, 2009
Dublin, Ireland
Croke Park
GROSS: $28,815,352 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 243,198
SHOWS: 3
SELLOUTS: 3
Average Ticket Price: $118.49

July 31 - August 1, 2009
Goteborg, Sweden
Ullevi Stadion
GROSS: $11,047,995
ATTENDANCE: 119,297
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $92.61

August 3, 2009
Gelsenkirchen, Germany
Veltins-Arena
GROSS: $7,292,826 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 73,704 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $98.95

August 6, 2009
Chorzow, Poland
Slaski Stadium
GROSS: $6,414,960 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 75,180 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $85.33

August 9-10, 2009
Zagreb, Croatia
Maksimir Stadium
GROSS: $12,700,784 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 124,012 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $102.42

August 14-15, 2009
London, United Kingdom
Wembley Stadium
GROSS: $20,680,860
ATTENDANCE: 164,244
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $125.92

August 18, 2009
Glasgow, United Kingdom
Hampden Park
GROSS: $5,290,103
ATTENDANCE: 50,917
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $103.90

August 20, 2009
Sheffield, United Kingdom
Don Valley Stadium
GROSS: $5,147,896
ATTENDANCE: 49,955
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $103.05

August 22, 2009
Cardiff, United Kingdom
Millennium Stadium
GROSS: $7,041,576 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 66,538 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $105.83

U2 360 TOUR: 1ST LEG EUROPE STATS

GROSS: $188,344,444
ATTENDANCE: 1,759,222
Average Gross: $7,847,685
Average Attendance: 73,301
Average Ticket Price: $107.06
Shows: 24
Sellouts: 24

2ND LEG NORTH AMERICA

September 12-13, 2009
Chicago, Illinois
Soldier Field
GROSS: $13,860,480 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 135,872 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $102.01

September 16-17, 2009
Toronto, Ontario
Rogers Centre
GROSS: $9,571,672
ATTENDANCE: 115,411
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $82.94

September 20-21, 2009
Foxboro, Massachusetts
Gillette Stadium
GROSS: $12,859,778 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 138,805 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $92.65

September 23-24, 2009
East Rutherford, New Jersey
Giants Stadium
GROSS: $16,128,950
ATTENDANCE: 161,810
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $99.68

September 29, 2009
Landover, Maryland
Fedex Field
GROSS: $6,718,315 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 84,754 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $79.27

October 1, 2009
Charlottesville, Virginia
Scott Stadium
GROSS: $4,738,695
ATTENDANCE: 52,433
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $90.38

October 3, 2009
Raleigh, North Carolina
Carter-Finely Stadium
GROSS: $4,962,240 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 55,027
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $90.18

October 6, 2009
Atlanta, Georgia
Georgia Dome
GROSS: $5,746,430 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 61,419
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $93.56

October 9, 2009
Tampa, Florida
Raymond James Stadium
GROSS: $6,399,375 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 72,688 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $88.04

October 12, 2009
Dallas, Texas
Cowboys Stadium
GROSS: $6,664,880 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 70,766 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $94.18

October 14, 2009
Houston, Texas
Reliant Stadium
GROSS: $5,985,101 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 58,328 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $102.61

October 18, 2009
Norman, Oklahoma
Ok Memorial Stadium
GROSS: $4,395,085 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 50,951
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $86.26

October 20, 2009
Glendale, Arizona
University of Phoenix Stadium
GROSS: $4,912,050 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 50,775 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $96.74

October 23, 2009
Las Vegas, Nevada
Sam Boyd Stadium
GROSS: $4,641,280 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 42,213
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $109.95

October 25, 2009
Pasadena, California
Rose Bowl
GROSS: $9,960,036 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 97,014
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $102.67

October 28, 2009
Vancouver B.C.
B.C. Place Stadium
GROSS: $5,748,919
ATTENDANCE: 63,802
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $90.11

U2 360 TOUR: 2ND LEG NORTH AMERICAN STATS

GROSS: $123,293,286
ATTENDANCE: 1,312,068
Average Gross: $6,164,664
Average Attendance: 65,603
Average Ticket Price: $93.97
Shows: 20
Sellouts: 20

U2 360 TOUR: TOTAL STATS TO DATE

GROSS: $311,637,730
ATTENDANCE: 3,071,290
Average Gross: $7,082,676
Average Attendance: 69,802
Average Ticket Price: $101.47
Shows: 44
Sellouts: 44

Huge numbers for the first 44 shows of the tour!

In total, the tour so far has set the gross record for 22 different stadiums. The tour has set the attendance record for 16 different stadiums. A total of 31 different stadiums have been played on the tour so far.

 

[U2FanPeter]

October 23, 2009
Las Vegas, Nevada
Sam Boyd Stadium
GROSS: $4,641,280 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 42,213
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $109.95

Turning Las Vegas Into Babs-ylon - Pop music: Barbra Streisand's first paid public concerts in 24 years occur this weekend at MGM Grand. 'There hasn't been an event with this type of demand in years,' says a rival hotelier. - Los Angeles Times

Streisand got a bigger payday and gross than U2 for a single night headliner show in Las Vegas. No boxscore was made public. I've brought this up to Malb. before and he'll talk about special gigs, tours and only gigs with boxscores ever happened.

 

[Maoilbheannacht]

Turning Las Vegas Into Babs-ylon - Pop music: Barbra Streisand's first paid public concerts in 24 years occur this weekend at MGM Grand. 'There hasn't been an event with this type of demand in years,' says a rival hotelier. - Los Angeles Times

Streisand got a bigger payday and gross than U2 for a single night headliner show in Las Vegas. No boxscore was made public. I've brought this up to Malb. before and he'll talk about special gigs, tours and only gigs with boxscores ever happened.

U2's record is for SAM BOYD STADIUM!!!! All the "records" listed above are for the VENUE being played, not the city or market being played!

 

[U2FanPeter]

Just a couple of minor corrections to the list. The show at the Georgia Dome did not set the attendance record. That still belongs to the Backstreet Boys at a little over 73,000. The show at the BC Place Stadium does not appear to have set the gross record. That still belongs to 3 Tenors show with over $7 million in gross.

I can't think of any single BC Place event that did more than 63,000. I don't think the Pope did more than that in the mid 80's.

I think 63,000 may even Western Canada entertainment record.

The Seattle record is probably the Stones in 81 at 68,000 and Billy Graham/Johnny Cash at 74,000(free?). Curious to see how U2360 do at Qwest Field next year.

 

[U2FanPeter]

September 16-17, 2009
Toronto, Ontario
Rogers Centre
GROSS: $9,571,672
ATTENDANCE: 115,411
SHOWS: 2
SELLOUTS: 2
Average Ticket Price: $82.94

Who holds the gross/attendance records?

 

[Maoilbheannacht]

I can't think of any single BC Place event that did more than 63,000. I don't think the Pope did more than that in the mid 80's.

Records for the gross and attendance at venues include combined events. U2 played to nearly 80,000 people at two shows back in 1992. Michael Jackson I think has the record for attendance at BC Place Stadium with nearly 100,000 for 3 shows from the Jacksons tour in 1984.

But, it is true that for a single show, the attendance would be a record.

 

[Maoilbheannacht]

Who holds the gross/attendance records?

This is one I have not looked at yet.

 

[CosmoKramer]

The problem we're having is that this is the 2nd or 3rd thread we've tried to have on this topic and unfortunately every thread ends up derailed with the same meaningless and off-topic discussion.

I understand how these two can go off topic for a good 5-10 pages. I have seen it happen in both threads here and in the UKMIX forums. However, to Maoi's defense, he did open a new thread to address his long...very long....standing interaction with Moggio and you locked it (the one about predictions). While there are times that posters post inappropriate comments about others or U2, these two actually have arguments that usually avoid insults (although I do think his logic is flawed at times).

Would it be possible to unlock the other thread, so as to isolate that conversation and not close down this one or any others involving the tour. I think we can keep this open to continue discussing rumors about new dates and sales of tickets as they are reported.

Lastly, if the other thread gets out of hand, people will stop reading it or posting and it will drop off on its own. Who knows, if the two of them go at it for 100 pages, maybe one of them will give in

 

[ramblin rose]

Sorry, but no. Multiple threads that have had to be closed on the same subject is enough. I've actually left this thread open, so there's no need for another thread.

If it becomes necessary to close this thread also then that's what will happen.

 

[pudgie_child]

October 20, 2009
Glendale, Arizona
University of Phoenix Stadium
GROSS: $4,912,050 (RECORD)
ATTENDANCE: 50,775 (RECORD)
SHOWS: 1
SELLOUTS: 1
Average Ticket Price: $96.74

This may have been brought up before in this thread, but 50,775 attendees at the University of Phoenix Stadium is definitely NOT a sellout.

Makes me wonder what else McGuinness & Co. are fudging.

 

[CosmoKramer]

This may have been brought up before in this thread, but 50,775 attendees at the University of Phoenix Stadium is definitely NOT a sellout.

Makes me wonder what else McGuinness & Co. are fudging.

Makes me wonder why you think it is u2 who report these numbers and not live nation...also, read through the thread and you will get your answer as to what defines a sellout

 

[badu2fan]

Makes me wonder why you think it is u2 who report these numbers and not live nation...also, read through the thread and you will get your answer as to what defines a sellout

U2 might not report numbers but they list shows as sell outs and I dont hear them saying we only sold out 3/4 of the shows. Which IMO is pretty damn good.

As what defines a sell out is the whole problem since promotor and band can create sellouts without anyone questioning them.

Maybe we need Rolling Stone Magazine to do a report on the bean counters of the concert industry. (never anyone I would trust with my new born)

THis sellout crap is just a promotional tool used by Live Nation and U2 and other bands to create a false sense of demand being meet so ticket prices need to be higher.

It looks to me that the ticket price are too high and if the average price in stadium was closer to $70 vs $100 you would have sell outs in all markets. And a 30% less gross would still be some awesome cash in such a horrible economic period.

The financial woes are more for Live Nation then U2 since they signed a multiple year contract which I assume takes all the risk out of U2.

Wish someone here with so much energy to watch these billboard numbers would dig up the contract and let us have a go at that for a discussion.

It would be fun to know what the band is responsible for vs Live Nation and even BlackBerry etc.
Who pays for the Claw and design etc. Did U2 have to put up any money for tour? If the tour didn't make a profit would U2 have a guaranteed amount to be paid?
Or would the band be in debt to corporate America?

 

[ramblin rose]

According to Paul McGuiness the tour would be at break even by the end of the 2 leg.

U2 360° World Tour: Paul McGuinness Says U2 Bono, Edge Have Not Made Profit Yet From Tour | Business | Sky News

 

[Maoilbheannacht]

This may have been brought up before in this thread, but 50,775 attendees at the University of Phoenix Stadium is definitely NOT a sellout.

Makes me wonder what else McGuinness & Co. are fudging.

Its also been brought up about thousand times that the way the music industry determines a "SELLOUT" is based on the number of tickets RELEASED FOR PURCHASE VS. how many of them are sold. If all are sold, the show is marked a sellout. The term "SELLOUT" has NOTHING to do with what the maximum physical capacity of a particular venue might be.

 

[Maoilbheannacht]

U2 might not report numbers but they list shows as sell outs and I dont hear them saying we only sold out 3/4 of the shows. Which IMO is pretty damn good.

As what defines a sell out is the whole problem since promotor and band can create sellouts without anyone questioning them.

Maybe we need Rolling Stone Magazine to do a report on the bean counters of the concert industry. (never anyone I would trust with my new born)

THis sellout crap is just a promotional tool used by Live Nation and U2 and other bands to create a false sense of demand being meet so ticket prices need to be higher.

The way a "Sellout" is defined today in the industry is the same way it was defined back in 1976 before the members of U2 had even met each other and were going to school in Dublin. I can list plenty of Boxscores from 1976 of shows that are marked sellouts despite the fact that its not the maximum capacity of the venue. Bruce Springsteen and every other artist today have had shows over the past year that "soldout" at a capacity that was smaller than what the venue could actually hold. In fact, this is the way it has always been done has NOTHING uniquely to do with U2.

So, this really much a do about nothing.

 

[CosmoKramer]

The way a "Sellout" is defined today in the industry is the same way it was defined back in 1976 before the members of U2 had even met each other and were going to school in Dublin. I can list plenty of Boxscores from 1976 of shows that are marked sellouts despite the fact that its not the maximum capacity of the venue. Bruce Springsteen and every other artist today have had shows over the past year that "soldout" at a capacity that was smaller than what the venue could actually hold. In fact, this is the way it has always been done has NOTHING uniquely to do with U2.

So, this really much a do about nothing.

The following are posts from the "Police Reunion Tour" thread in this forum. These posts were made in August of 2008, well before U2 even announced the 360 tour:
Originally Posted by Hewson
"So will the Tweeter Center in Mansfield MA show be listed as a sellout even though I can currently buy a pair of 7th row seats, or if I choose I can buy 50 seats together (not lawn, but actual seats), becuase in the end when they sell 8,500 seats, Arthur Fogel will list the Tweter's capacity for the Police at 8,500 and not the 19,900 it holds for every other artist?"
And my point proven:
Quote:
July 31, 2008
Mansfield, Massachusetts
Comcast Center
Capacity: 13,523
Attendance: Soldout
Gross: $1,352,730
Average Ticket Price: $100.03
To end this discussion:
Sold out my ass."


Quote:
Originally Posted by Strongbow
July 12, 2008
George, Washington
The Gorge
Capacity: 10,255
Attendance: Soldout
Gross: $1,150,923
Average Ticket Price: $112.23
"50% real Capacity(check wiki or radiohead from last week), Ouch. Now I can see why they skipped Vancouver/Western"



So as you can see, this whole "sell out" thing is NOT a secret deal between U2 and Corporate America. It might have more to do with Live Nation as I am sure U2 cares more about the fact that they played to 50k in a night than sell out of tickets at a place that only holds 15k.

 

[Maoilbheannacht]

So as you can see, this whole "sell out" thing is NOT a secret deal between U2 and Corporate America. It might have more to do with Live Nation as I am sure U2 cares more about the fact that they played to 50k in a night than sell out of tickets at a place that only holds 15k.

Again, it has nothing to do with either. If you go back and look at boxscores from 1976, you will find plenty that are listed as soldout for venues, that could physically seat more people. This is the way it has been done since the begining of the music industry. Promoter releases x number of tickets. If x number of tickets are sold and no more are released, the show is marked a sellout.

 

[beau99]

Its also been brought up about thousand times that the way the music industry determines a "SELLOUT" is based on the number of tickets RELEASED FOR PURCHASE VS. how many of them are sold. If all are sold, the show is marked a sellout. The term "SELLOUT" has NOTHING to do with what the maximum physical capacity of a particular venue might be.

You don't have to be a jerk to everyone

That may be how a sellout is marked, but that doesn't make it right.

 

[ijwthstd]

The following are posts from the "Police Reunion Tour" thread in this forum. These posts were made in August of 2008, well before U2 even announced the 360 tour:
Originally Posted by Hewson
"So will the Tweeter Center in Mansfield MA show be listed as a sellout even though I can currently buy a pair of 7th row seats, or if I choose I can buy 50 seats together (not lawn, but actual seats), becuase in the end when they sell 8,500 seats, Arthur Fogel will list the Tweter's capacity for the Police at 8,500 and not the 19,900 it holds for every other artist?"
And my point proven:
Quote:
July 31, 2008
Mansfield, Massachusetts
Comcast Center
Capacity: 13,523
Attendance: Soldout
Gross: $1,352,730
Average Ticket Price: $100.03
To end this discussion:
Sold out my ass."


Quote:
Originally Posted by Strongbow
July 12, 2008
George, Washington
The Gorge
Capacity: 10,255
Attendance: Soldout
Gross: $1,150,923
Average Ticket Price: $112.23
"50% real Capacity(check wiki or radiohead from last week), Ouch. Now I can see why they skipped Vancouver/Western"



So as you can see, this whole "sell out" thing is NOT a secret deal between U2 and Corporate America. It might have more to do with Live Nation as I am sure U2 cares more about the fact that they played to 50k in a night than sell out of tickets at a place that only holds 15k.

In other words, they were reported as sold out after the fact even though they weren't. Like I would really believe only 10,000 and change were ever available for a show by The Police when they sold out 2 arena shows in the area the year before or 13,500 in a market where they played a stadium the year before. If that were the place, there wouldn't be 50 together available on TM (often ticket limits are removed when the shows aren't selling well).

 

[pudgie_child]

Oooh, oooh, I just remembered this dandy:

"U2 has always been at their best when surrounded by the audience, this staging takes a giant leap forward. With 85 percent of the tickets priced at less than 95 Euro, general admission floor tickets priced at 55 euro and at least 10,000 tickets at every venue priced at the 30 Euro price range, we have worked very hard to ensure that U2 fans can purchase a great priced ticket with a guaranteed great view" says U2's manager Paul McGuinness."

http://u2.com/news/article/4624

 

[ramblin rose]

Not sure you actually read the article but the prices in the article are in Euro and presumably are referring to the European dates. This thread is about US boxscores.

 

[U2FloridaFan]

You can just feel the tension in this thread, and why?????? The boxscores are what they are. For the umpteenth time, Live Nation and U2 are not doing anything different than every other promoter and artist does. The fact that they've had anywhere between 42 (don't they have a larger stadium anywhere in Vegas? Seems strange in a place where everything is bigger than life that this would be their smallest NA date so far) and 100K at every show speaks volumes for their popularity regardless of "sellout" or "record." All the info in this thread was initially very informative, but now I think this topic has been beaten to death. What more can be said...until the next NA leg??

...note to self...unsubscribe from this thread........

 

[GibsonExplorer]

All of the shows are sellouts? Tell that to online ticket scalpers who must've lost thousands upon thousands of dollars this time around LMAO. My brother who's a big fan bought tickets for great seats off Ebay for less than half-price for two different cities (Houston and Phoenix), and every seller was desperate to be rid of their tickets. How could Ticketmaster sell all of their "available" tickets if scalpers selling tickets at ridiculous discounts cannot? Search U2 tickets and view completed listings, see for yourself (Ebay may not keep those records for very long, though--so try the Vancouver show.)

 

[ramblin rose]

What does scalpers buying tickets have to do whether the show was sold out?

That's the scalpers problem if they chose to buy up tickets to resell. Let's see if the scalpers make the same mistake this leg, if they do, I hope they get stuck with a bunch of tickets again.

Scalpers don't come into play when determining boxscores, they're just another buyer.

 

[ijwthstd]

All of the shows are sellouts? Tell that to online ticket scalpers who must've lost thousands upon thousands of dollars this time around LMAO. My brother who's a big fan bought tickets for great seats off Ebay for less than half-price for two different cities (Houston and Phoenix), and every seller was desperate to be rid of their tickets. How could Ticketmaster sell all of their "available" tickets if scalpers selling tickets at ridiculous discounts cannot? Search U2 tickets and view completed listings, see for yourself (Ebay may not keep those records for very long, though--so try the Vancouver show.)

Scalping/resale is an entirely different dynamic than regular sale. First off, most people are reluctant to buy in the secondary market. If enough tickets are available to satisfy demand, then tickets won't be worth very much on the secondary market. Also stadium shows (with a few exceptions, such as Rose Bowl) are a very easy ticket just due to the amount of tickets available.

I bet a lot of those people aren't even real scalpers, they buy the limit when they go on sale then try to get their friends on board.

The Police at Staples set a concert record but I got a rear lower level ticket off Ebay for $22.50