Either way, apparently you have no rebuttal.
My need for more Star Wars is more than quenched by the books. I don't need to see other actors playing characters I already know and love. Just fuck this.
dazzledbylight said:any books you'd reccomend? i hated the thrawn trilogy.
i did read 1 other one (don't remeber author - might have been woman) but i don't have a negative impression of it ....just got more interested in other things
I Move in Mysterious Ways said:I have a laundry list of rebuttals. The prequel films ranged from okay (Sith) to 100% horseshit (Phantom Menace).
But what's the point in arguing? It's like me trying to explain to a hardcore Browns fan that their team sucks.
My disclaimer here is that I'm actually a bigger Indy fan than SW fan. So, I probably have that bias. Indy was out of sync for sure. I liked it enough when it came out, but it feels much more forced and cheesier than the 80's films. Shia shouldn't have been in it and, from what I understand, much better stories were tossed aside in favor of a feeble attempt at 50's sci-fi.
Sith was the only one I felt held a candle to the original three. Visually, I was torn. I thought just about every other frame of the Phantom Menace was a pure eyesore, though much of the series did indeed exhibit superior craftmanship. The main thing I find unforgivable is that I can't think of one character I cared a whole lot about in the prequels. Most of the actors seemed miserably miscast and every performance was horribly wooden (if not flat out bad). Far from the cast of colorful, memorable characters I grew up with in the 80's.
I don't know how you can watch the end of Revenge of the Sith and tell me with a straight face that you don't care about the characters.
bono_212 said:I don't know how you can watch the end of Revenge of the Sith and tell me with a straight face that you don't care about the characters.
Danny Boy said:After the "romantic" lake scene in Clones, I was rooting for Anakin and Padme to die.
After the "romantic" lake scene in Clones, I was rooting for Anakin and Padme to die.
Movie popcorn? I'm in!
George Lucas' personal touch is responsible for the visual sophistication of the prequels, which maintain a formal integrity coming from one experienced director handling all three (something the OT sorely lacks). Return Of The Jedi's flat, uninspired look is what you may get without that involvement.
Because these films are meant for international audiences, I'm a lot more concerned with how these sequels are visualized than potential lame dialogue. So, the dumb jokes and corny lines we lose with Lucas stepping down might not be worth also losing his gifts as a storyteller through moving images.
But it does negate the higher budget features.maybe if Cinderella 2 was an isolated incident,i could agree with you, but there is far more than one sequel to that one.plus don't get me stated on what a shit-fest Pixar has turned into.
dazzledbylight said:
I see what you mean by visual integration re the Prequals but what was was it visually that you found flat in ROTJ? (not counting the semi-ridiculousness of the ewoks <tho the tree houses/bridges were awesome>). Certainly the baiting of Luke and subsequent duel with the Emparor was pretty awesome!
ESB is the one i really love in the end, with the all the others being like, like alot with scenes I really love in all of them. AND ANH was the kick-off world/universe bulder.
I'd like to see some cameos with the OT charactors while focusing on ?? their kids as young adults foward in #7, rebuilding the Jedi, and possibly changing some of the Jedi code and also bringing in one or two new other sapient Jedi as major charactors. Maybe hidden Empirests ready to make a come.
What Pixar movies are you complaing about? Other than Cars 2 ....
monsters University
Lucas has said before that he considers dialogue to be just one element of the soundtrack, secondary to the music and probably the sound design as well. These films are watched around the world, often not even in English. So ultimately, how good the line deliveries are isnt as important as the other things.
LemonMelon said:In the original trilogy? Are you kidding me?
I could quote New Hope backwards.
I Move in Mysterious Ways said:I hope Disney can find a way to undo the desecration of the original trilogy. I can ignore the prequels, but I can't forgive the aggressive mutilation of three classics.
Desecration?
Agressive mutilation?
You were suggesting those lines were remarkable, not memorable.
It seems now, at least in this thread, that today's news has merely stirred up a bunch of lame and done-to-death conversations and arguments.
Are the prequels any good? Is Return of the Jedi any good? Lucas is an asshole! What are the best Pixar movies?
Too bad.
Let me know when there's more information about the upcoming trilogy.