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I fail to see the Dark Knight comparison, which is getting really tiresome. (Now the poster is a blatant rip off of The Dark Knight Rises but that's a whole different story) Is it darker than the initial installment? Sure, but almost all series go that route. Did people accuse TDK of ripping off of Empire Strikes Back? No. From the teaser we can tell that the film revolves around a villain who has some personal vendetta with Starfleet, or at least with one of our main characters, The Dark Knight is driven by a villain who has no motivation he's just an anarchist without a background.
Again, talk turns to time – and the lack of it. ‘I wish we would have more time to craft the film properly,’ he regrets. ‘For instance, with “The Dark Knight” Christopher Nolan had a year to cut his movie, to work on the visual effects, to reflect. I don’t have that time and so compromises have to be made.’
It's tiresome because Hollywood is that way. When the Dark Knight came out and did so well executives were trying to find a way to make Superman darker to earn more money. Inception had lots of influences from other films so I'm not saying that TDK or any movie doesn't have influences as well. Anything that is successful will be copied. Of course they won't copy everything but they will copy the tone. It may work out okay but I'm sure it won't in all movies.
You'll even see competing scripts that duel with each other from different studios so they can hedge their bets. "Hey so and so studio is creating a movie about this theme. Maybe we should bring out that script that's similar and develop that?"
Have you ever seen a horror movie be successful and then they wear it into the ground with torture-porn sequels and look-a-likes? It's called audience pandering. Audiences sometimes make these sequels lots of money even if they're bad. It does well simply because it taps into what general audiences think they want until they stop buying tickets (AKA tired).
Look at the Iron Man 3 trailer. Look at Skyfall. These may be good movies but at some point they'll run it into the ground until audiences are tired of the trend and there's another success they can imitate.
Did I deny that movies are influenced by successful films including Nolan's? Not at all, go back & see all the comparisons to Nolan I pointed out opening weekend of Skyfall.
What I said was that it's silly to ascribe so much to him in so many instances where the comparison being made is inappropriate because it's to something generic. We haven't even seen more than mere seconds of Iron Man 3 or Into Darkness and already the Nolan comparisons are being trot out & why? Because it pushes the hero to extremes by being tested by harsher threats than they have before? That is how sagas have evolved for ages, it's not being done because Nolan did it. Abrams' first Star Trek film is rather cheery for coming out when it did considering TDK, the Bourne movies, etc. were at the top of the zeitgeist. He'll do his own thing, and if it goes darker it's because that's a natural progression.
...seeing this most recent stuff I'm not getting a "Star Trek" spiritual vibe here from Abrams. That "fit through a tight gap" bit feels like Abrams thought of it as the best chance he'd have to do a Star Wars tribute.
That poster totally looks like a generic action movie, I'd have no idea it was Star Trek if it didn't say so in the title.
But I guess they don't want to market this movie as Star Trek internationally, since the franchise has never really been as big a deal outside of the US.
That poster totally looks like a generic action movie, I'd have no idea it was Star Trek if it didn't say so in the title.