Jive Turkey
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In that case, perhaps. But I don't see how religion played a role in generations of Chinese parents binding their daughters' feet so they would be unable to walk or even runaway from their husbands, lest they bring shame to their families. Same for the Kayan Lahwi (Long-Necked Kayan) women, who's necks are stretched from neck rings. If they displease their husbands in anyway, that husband can remove those rings and since necks that long aren't strong enough, they fall over and the women suffocate and die. I have yet to hear religion being blamed.
I've said it many times, but I don't think religion is the sole reason for all the problems in the world. I think it is a lot more complex than that.
Actually, I was refering to smaller cults, like Jonestown or Heaven's Gate. Those members were lost and confused, and were easy targets for those cults. You may say the same thing for the mainstream religions.
And I don't think its pure fantasy that humans are eerily similar. I think you got judgmental there, and that was out of line.
I get the impression you are not going to stop until everyone in FYM starts believing what you believe, Jive, and that's not cool. If atheists aren't delusional like theists are, then they would be well aware that people are going to believe what they want, and they really don't care what others think.
I'm honestly bothered that you said this. Maybe I've given you the impression that I am a Christian who thinks everyone else is wrong.
The truth is, I don't think everyone else is living in a fantasy and anyone who agrees with me is in reality. I think there are many paths to reaching the divine and explaining the meaning of life. I think there's a divine spark in a Hindu, a Sikh, a neopagan. I doubt I ever said only Christians do.
Also, I really don't know how to define my beliefs. I mean, yeah, Christianity maybe the foundation of my faith but its not the only belief system I look to. I am more of the "spiritual but not religious" types, the one foot in one faith and the other in miscellaneous. I don't even rely on the Bible as a guide, I turn to the Spirit within.
If it sounds confusing to you, sorry but that's how it is for me.
Well, I mean it is what it is. You're obviously welcome to believe whatever you please.
But a Christian can't believe Islam is true, because Islam doesn't believe Jesus was the son of god. Similarly, a Jew can't believe Christianity is true, because Jews don't believe Jesus was a prophet or the son of god, either (poor Jesus!!). What's partially why I always feel a Christian using the term "Judeo Christian" is a big "Fuck you" to Judaism ("We believe in both books! You Jews are just a book behind. It's all the same, silly"). Most religions are inherently divisive.
Sounds like you might be leaning more toward being agnostic