This is the whole point, isn't it. There's nothing offensive about a vagina. And it seems no one can name any child who has ever had this word get out of hand from overuse and reactionary taunting, as 4 year olds do love to do.blueeyedgirl said:
Did you?
Angela Harlem said:I respect 80s view where it's better to take precaution and avoid difficult situations with kids who are too young to understand
dazzlingamy said:People are so over the top about the smallest things now adays. Do you think this inadvertatly leads to what the parent is really scared of?
Like a parent of a child i used to babysit used to tell him his penis was yucky and naughty and if he touched it bad things would happen to him. He was also told that it was used for dirty despicable things you only do with someone you love (hows that for a headfuck saying?) He was so terrified he would wet himself rather then touch it to go to the toilet. Later on he realised (like a lot of teenagers that was to piss off their parents) that being rather upfront and graphic about sex and masturbation pissed his mum off, so he would sleep around and i was always hearing stories about him getting caught having a wank at school. Anyway he's now 14 and has a child with one girl and got another girl pregnant. I mean this is just one story, but looking at it, the message his mum gave him, instead of warning him off anything sexual just made him go in the other direction... its interesting.
martha said:
But driving by a theater marquee?
When does the "won't somebody think of the children" attitude end, and the "let's live our lives like regular people" begin?
BonoVoxSupastar said:
My cousin's 3 year old asked "mommy where's your penis, did it fall off?" Instead of making up some story, she explained to him that mommies have vaginas and don't have penises. The child never went around repeating the word or asking everyone about it. Children are curious, that's the nature of childhood. Be honest with them...
martha said:
Get over it, 80s. It's not a swear word. Although some of the people you vote for might think it is.
CTU2fan said:^ Exactly. It's just a body part, jeez.
The theatre should have changed "vagina" to "pussy", the concerned citizens would have been begging them to change it back before the paint was even dry.
dazzlingamy said:People are so over the top about the smallest things now adays. Do you think this inadvertatly leads to what the parent is really scared of?
Like a parent of a child i used to babysit used to tell him his penis was yucky and naughty and if he touched it bad things would happen to him. He was also told that it was used for dirty despicable things you only do with someone you love (hows that for a headfuck saying?) He was so terrified he would wet himself rather then touch it to go to the toilet. Later on he realised (like a lot of teenagers that was to piss off their parents) that being rather upfront and graphic about sex and masturbation pissed his mum off, so he would sleep around and i was always hearing stories about him getting caught having a wank at school. Anyway he's now 14 and has a child with one girl and got another girl pregnant. I mean this is just one story, but looking at it, the message his mum gave him, instead of warning him off anything sexual just made him go in the other direction... its interesting.
dazzledbylight said:
RTG martha!
Sorry 80's-- I was when i was a young to mid-teen really one of those "prissy" [hope that IS one of the words i'm thinking of....or maybe priggish? No Thesaurous at the Net cafe ]....
...and I'm so glad i thought myself away from that type of thinking over time.
meegannie said:I only get annoyed because the term vagina has become synonymous with vulva.
80sU2isBest said:
and I have no desire to change my long-held opinion that there are certain things that are not appropriate to be plastered on public billboards and marquees.
meegannie said:I only get annoyed because the term vagina has become synonymous with vulva.
Vincent Vega said:Yes, you have to live in denial with part of your body until you are 18 (or 21).
You aren't allowed to mention that word, read that word or do anything else with that word.
This word can't be penis or vagina when you are a child, because that would hurt you for life and leave you traumatized.
This part of your body is dirty, the word is dirty, and mentioning it is a crime.
Don't ask me why, because I don't know.
80sU2isBest said:
However, I come from a generation that was raised to put stock in modesty, class and decorum. That's how my parents raised me, and I'm glad.
BonoVoxSupastar said:
Modesty? No one is flashing their vagina on this marquee or even in the show.
Class? Very subjective. Some may consider class to be able to talk to their children in a real way and not have to make up stories or words for body parts.
Decorum? Also subjective and I don't see anything that doesn't fit in decorum here. Maybe if they had used a slang term.
They probably aren't as different as you may think.80sU2isBest said:
In a general sense, I'll just say that you and I have very different values and ideas about modesty, class and decorum. And it's not just a difference between you and I; most people of my generation and previous will have different values and beliefs concerning this than more recent generations. Just as you don't understand why I would object on those grounds, I can't understand why you wouldn't.
80sU2isBest said:
But I will address what you said about class specifically. What does having a play with a body part mentioned in the title have to do with the subject of talking to your children about body parts? That connection doesn't make sense to me.
And why do you assume that someone who doesn't want to see that word on a marquee is someone who won't have the conversations you're talking about with their kids? As I said, there is no connection.
BonoVoxSupastar said:
Well I was addressing your specific concern which seemed to be that the word was out in the public for a child to see. I didn't see any posts specifically about the play itself.
BrownEyedBoy said:80´s, repeat after me:
Vagina, vagina, vagina. Penis, penis, penis.
80sU2isBest said:
But there is still no connection between what you said and I what said about class, because of this: just because a parent doesn't want his/her child to see that word in public doesn't mean that parent is going to tell lies about body parts or make up words for it.