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How would you prefer it described ?
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What do you and every other media outlet in this country call it when a white man shoots another white man?
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Crime?How would you prefer it described ?
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Thanks for answering my question. Seems like you would want to view this in a colorblind spectrum.
Is 'violence' how you would describe cop shootings of suspects across the board?
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Thanks for answering my question. Seems like you would want to view this in a colorblind spectrum.
Is 'violence' how you would describe cop shootings of suspects across the board?
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Thanks for answering my question. Seems like you would want to view this in a colorblind spectrum.
Is 'violence' how you would describe cop shootings of suspects across the board?
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Ugh, I hate to have to do this...
Guys, while I neither condone nor condemn the term "black-on-black," statistics are a thing. Demographics are a thing. It's not inherently racist if you mention someone's race. Ignoring demographics is not productive.
That doesn't mean that the usage of the demographic statistic is relevant, significant, or valid. But you can't just hate the term for the sake of not wanting to sound racist. It's not racist unless you make it racist.
I don't think that was the point.
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Then what's the point? What's wrong with saying "black on black"? Does it sound like too much of a porno or something?
Being colorblind is an excellent goal for humanity, but in order to solve humanity's issues of race you can't just never mention how these races interact.
Let's go right off the bat... whites are more likely to commit white collar crime. Why, because that's their style? No, because they're more likely to have gone through college because they don't grow up shit poor. That doesn't change the fact that the statistic exists. That doesn't mean we should turn a (color)blind eye to it.
Tell me the next time you turn on the news and you hear; white on white crime, gay on gay, straight on straight, Hispanic on Hispanic crime. You won't hear it, it's a diversion term used by racists in order to sweep uncomfortable subjects under the rug.
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Because "black on black" crime is perpetually used as a deflection when racism is pointed out. "Why are they so worried about cops or racists when they're getting killed by 'their own'?"
There's really no point to the term beyond deflection. It's used to imply that dysfunction in black community is solely due to race and not poverty or structural racism.
In aggregate, most murder is white-on-white.
That's just not true. It's like you're claiming there's no point to demographics when it comes to something negative. A demographic statistic that draws a relationship is valuable in every single instance, and important to help draw hypotheses about society.
It is true that more than 80% of murders are by white people on white people.
I think there's value in demographics, positive or negative, but this particular term cannot be divorced from politics, nor is it applied evenly across all groups. Do we ever talk about white-on-white crime?
It is true that more than 80% of murders are by white people on white people.
I think the main issue is that using race as the demographic metric is superficial, as the underlying correlation is more accurately with poverty and other socio-economic factors.
Didn't know it was that high. Can you link a source for that? I'd be interested to see those numbers.
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I don't remember anyone saying the term "black on black" is racist. Just that it's not terribly useful in getting at the underlying problems.
I've said that the term is used by racists. It's use seems problematic at best, and it's usefulness seems to go about as far as to determine the fact that people tend to kill within their own ethnic groups.
Is there even a legal definition of black and white? I honestly don't know. It seems to me those things are primarily social constructs, and in that sense a statistic about a social construct is pretty useless unless it is based on self-identification.