earthshell said:
now that is just bullshit. there's a hypocrisy involved, simply entiled, it's called talk the talk, but don't walk the walk. if you were devout and committed to animal rights, you won't settle for this kind of shit. so she is a member of aspca - good for her - but she is unfaithful to the cause.
Or maybe you're fully committed to the cause, but know the difference between actual animal abuse and
harmless candy that won't get hurt in any way, shape, or form (seriously, so would you be against having animal crackers sold now? God knows what those could promote. And those goldfish crackers that bonosgirl84 was talking about (good point, and you're welcome
...do you think those shouldn't be sold anymore either? How far are we going to go here?).
As I said way, way back in this thread,
it is just candy.
Originally posted by earthshell
how old are you again? i'm guessing you've never had to be a parent. kids don't know anything about responsiblity - they think they do. just saying 'animal abuse is wrong' and then saying nothing about this obscene candy isn't going to achieve jack shit.
Uh, kids don't know anything about responsiblity? I would beg to differ, as I know many kids who are
very responsible people, my sister and I (back when I was a kid...and I still am a responsible person now) included, and know the difference between right and wrong, because their parents took the time out of their lives to
teach them that difference.
I'm 20 years old, and you're right, I'm not a parent, but since I do have experience in being a kid, I know that when I was younger, whenever I saw somebody advertise something on TV, that
did not mean I had to automatically support it, buy it, agree with the message, what have you. Same goes with my sister, who is 16. And why did we know this stuff? Because of our
parents, who raised us to know right from wrong. If I was 10 years old and my parents brought me this candy, I'd still say that actual animal abuse would be god-awful and would be flat out wrong, because my parents taught me that that was so. I would not begin thinking that it was cool to hurt animals just by eating roadkill candy.
Originally posted by earthshell
i knew i would have to kick my drug habits when my girlfriend (now ex gf, she refused to do anything about hers) got pregnant, and it was hard as all hell. now why did i do that? because i don't want them to get fucked up. ironically enough i lost custody, due to a personal matter i would rather not mention.
Yeah, because you knew that if you were still on drugs, you'd be irresponsible and unable to care for your kids.
Originally posted by earthshell
they are targeting our kids with this sick shit. you would probably expect to see this at spencer's, but our kids? no, it is fucking wrong.
They aren't targeting kids-keep in mind that adults eat candy, too. They are merely selling a product, just like everyone else.
It is up to us as consumers to decide whether or not we want to buy the stuff, and any negative things we do upon buying that product are OUR fault, not the company's.
Originally posted by earthshell
they don't know any better, and corporations are taking advantage of it.
I really appreciate how you're giving kids such credit here...most kids DO know better than to abuse animals, okay? Most kids
will not be influenced by this candy to become animal abusers, and any kids that
do, well, again, I'm wondering why their parents didn't do a better job raising them.
Originally posted by earthshell
tell that to any redneck, they'll be happy to maim and ridicule your value for their existence.
Huh?
Originally posted by earthshell
the company's job is to make a buck, sure, but they don't have to go so low in order to do so.
Well, some do. And besides that, you don't even know the true reason
why they're making this kind of candy in the first place. Why not try and find
that out first before making such accusations?
Originally posted by earthshell
they are responsible for what they sell, and who they target.
The consumers still hold just as much responsibility, if not more so, because again, they are not being
forced to buy this stuff. They have the choice of whether or not to buy this kind of thing, and if they do buy it, they must be prepared to deal with whatever consequences may result from their purchase. The blame does not rest solely on the company.
Originally posted by earthshell
you honestly don't see this? for christ sakes, any agenda out there is going to use humor to further their agenda. they're a bunch of moral lacking neocons who believe it's perfectly acceptable to intentionally run over animals, they also believe it's perfectly acceptable to promote sadism on animals.
Again, assumptions being made everywhere...you do not know for sure that that is what their agenda is, or even that they
have an agenda to begin with.
Originally posted by earthshell
because maybe you're an adult? i'm assuming you are, at least.
I am, yes, but my sister isn't...she's 16, as I said. And yet she still has no desire to start abusing animals upon hearing about this information. And bonosgirl84, how old is your daughter?
Besides that, once
again, so I'm an adult...so what? That wouldn't automatically make me immune to being "influenced" to do something because some company said it was okay...there have been many adults that have done stupid things because others around them said it was okay to do so. But no, apparently only kids are stupid enough to make that mistake? I don't think so.
Angela