HyperU2
War Child
He's the one that's anti all guns.
oh yeah, you have statistics that show how many people have been killed with "assault weapons" as opposed to other guns?
i'd love to see them.
i guess "assault weapons" are the only guns that kill people.
no, i'm talking about guns in general. big guns, little guns, short guns, tall guns, fat guns, skinny guns -- they're sole purpose is to kill people, and they do that job exceedingly well, in fact, they do that job better in the USA than they do in any other first world nation.
all i want is for you to recognize that your "freedom" results in lots and lots of dead kids.
like, tens of thousands of dead kids.
just give me that. just admit that you like guns, and that it's worth all the dead kids.
again, show be stats that back this up
show you the stats that back up the fact that people are killed with handguns every day on the streets of the United States?
you want it city-by-city?
did you not see the Elevation Tour?
you said tens of thousands of dead kids?
HAHAHA i guess the Elevation Tour is a reliable source of information on gun violence
AH HAAA! you said HANDGUNS. i believe we were discussing "assault weapons".
and, yes, tens of thousands of dead kids.
the Elevation Tour is more reliable than the "oh yeah? show me!" attitude of a gun nut who offers nothing more than really, really loose terms like "freedom" and his love of guns.
Gee I think those pink guns are sad, not funny
you are waaay too into guns if you are color accessorizing them.
"Tens of thousands of kids" seems to include the adults.
again, show me stats that back this up. "GUNS RESULT IN TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DEAD CHILDREN AND DEAD PUPPIES EVERY DAY!!!!!" dont make statements in a discussion that you cant back up, at least thats the way i look at it.
if you are going to engage in a discussion with me, you better go back and read.
i am now and have always been talking about guns in general. you flip back and forth between different kinds of guns depending on which better suits the way the wind blows, and then you add in phrases like "dead puppies" and the totally made up "every day" quote.
the facts are as follows: thousands upon thousands of people are killed each year by hand guns. thousands upon thousands of those who are killed are children. over the decades it amounts to hundreds of thousands of dead Americans killed by guns.
i am asking you if you think that your right to "bear arms" is worth the cost of hundreds of thousands of dead people.
you have yet to answer the question. so back off with your accusations and address the issue at hand, and i'll continue to let you embarrass yourself.
ok ill try
first of all, do you believe law abiding citizens should be able to have A gun for personal defense in their home?
I'll use your own logic to answer this... Only a small amount of people a year actually defend themselves with their firearms in their own home.
yes, i do. my right to bear arms doesnt force anyone to kill anyone. if you ban guns people will still kill eachother. look at the knives, other weapons, and even hands and feet on your link. those arent small numbers either, in fact some of them are more than rifles and shotguns combined. maybe we ought to look at factors that drive us to kill eachother and solve those problems, not just BAN GUNS BAN GUNS!!!
if you ban guns people will still kill eachother. look at the knives, other weapons, and even hands and feet on your link.
California
Total Murders: 2,249
Total Fire Arms: 1,605
Handguns: 1,374
Rifles: 51
Shotguns: 74
Unknown Firearms: 106
Knivers: 298
Other Weapons 228
Hands, feet, fists, etc.: 118
so your solution of just BAN GUNS seems ineffective at stopping gun deaths.
yes, i do. my right to bear arms doesnt force anyone to kill anyone. the people that murder other people are the problem, not just guns. if you ban guns people will still kill eachother. look at the knives, other weapons, and even hands and feet on your link. those arent small numbers either, in fact some of them are more than rifles and shotguns combined. maybe we ought to look at factors that drive us to kill eachother and solve those problems, not just BAN GUNS BAN GUNS!!!
lemme tell you in st thomas they have EXTREME gun control. there are no gun stores at all on the island, and you have to have like 3 permits and background checks to even have one. yet people are still getting shot every weekend. and im sure it is like that in some other places where guns are outlawed, or heavily restricted. how do you explain that? so your solution of just BAN GUNS seems ineffective at stopping gun deaths.
Yes, I think poverty and education need to be dealt with...
But like I've said before, I would much rather take my chances with knife rather than a gun.
Every weekend? Really? I tried looking up some stats, but I couldn't find any, but I did find one article that mentioned that gun violence is rare in St Thomas. But let's not overlook the fact that it's only 2 hours from Detroit.
so is that a yes or no?
and lemme see numbers
2 hours from Detroit???
im talking about the Virgin Islands in the caribbean!
I thought you were talking about St Thomas, Ontario.
Yes, that St Thomas had about 27 shootings in 2007 which is the highest it's been.
BTW, did you hear about the man in Alabama last week that shot himself in the shoulder because he was sleeping with his gun under his pillow?
"do i think we need better controls to keep guns out of the hands of psychos, criminals, and IDIOTS? yes."