martha
Blue Crack Supplier
freedom to choose
Y'know, this whole "Obama is the socialist devil" bullshit could really start working for us.
freedom to choose
I'll never understand O'Reilly's viewers. He's the definition of hypocrite
Explain.
And there is nobody worse in that field than Olbermann. Nobody.
AARP loses members over health care stance
WASHINGTON (AP) — About 60,000 senior citizens have quit AARP since July 1 due to the group's support for a health care overhaul, a spokesman for the organization said Monday.
The membership loss suggests dissatisfaction on the part of AARP members at a time when many senior citizens are concerned about proposed cuts to Medicare providers to help pay for making health care available for all. But spokesman Drew Nannis said it wasn't unusual for the powerful, 40 million-strong senior citizens' lobby to shed members in droves when it's advocating on a controversial issue.
No biggie. They were gonna lose members to the death panels anyway.
The approximately 60,000 number represents members who specifically cited AARP's stance on the health overhaul debate in canceling their membership between July 1 and mid-August, Nannis said. He said that on average AARP loses some 300,000 members a month, but he couldn't say how many more members had quit for other reasons in that time period.
He said AARP gained some 400,000 new members during the same period and that 1.5 million members renewed their membership.
1.) end the wars overseas, close non-essential military bases.
2.) end failed war on drugs. legalize, tax, and control all drugs. release all non-violent drug offenders from jail / prison. with prison population down by somewhere around almost 50%, close all un-needed private prisons funded by the government.
3.) get rid if all medical insurance companies.
4.) with all the money the government saved from cutting military spending, paying for prisoners and prisons, and income from legalized, taxed drugs, they pay for healthcare for everyone. private doctors, hospitals, dentists, etc etc are all reimbursed by the government for the services they provide. government pays for all supplies, medicines, equipment, etc at dirt cheap rate. everything runs pretty much the same except instead of insurance companies paying the doctors, the government pays for everything. no salary changes, no job cuts, nothing. the government doesnt "RUN" healthcare or interfere with policy, it just pays for it, no questions asked.
5.) if you are healthy and dont use the system that often, you get a tax break. if you are unhealthy and go to the doctor every week, you dont. simple.
just a possible idea to make the government work for us instead of us working for the government
maybe i should post this here instead of the fascist socialist thread
If we could all tone down the rhetoric, that would be awesome.
Yes, wouldn't that be awesome? Of course it's ironic after you state all this drivel:If we could all tone down the rhetoric, that would be awesome.
You mean like the Left did so easily and quickly during Bush's term? The reality is that whatever lack of political dialogue we are able to have now is a direct result of studying and employing the Left's playbook for the past eight years -- used frequently and often here on FYM. ("Hail to the Thief," "GW is a racist," "GW is a moron," "GW is a war criminal," "GW is a fascist," "GW is a Christofascist," "Theocracy is on the rise," etc etc. I seem to recall several "Bush is Hitler" comments as well.)
In all honesty how can you legalize and control drugs such as meth, heroin, and cocaine?
what Obama is proposing, which is a really, really moderate change to the health care system
Which is why it's collapsing despite a huge Democratic majority in the House and a 60 vote filibuster-proof majority in the Senate.
show me where this plan is radical.
I think what we're seeing is the spinelessness of democrats worried about 2010, and the influence of cable news, as well as the difficulty of saying anything remotely rational about health care in this country because we have people like you comparing something that every last developed nation offers it's citizens to hitler.
i think what we're seeing is the spinelessness of Democrats worried about 2010, and the influence of cable news, as well as the difficulty of saying anything remotely rational about health care in this country because we have people like you comparing something that every last developed nation offers it's citizens to Hitler.
i also think this was a miscalculation on Obama's part, at least politically.
The latest well informed opposition I heard today on the healthplan, from a white man on medicare:
"Obama wants us all to be dependent on the state so we're just like all the other n***ers out there."
It took a lot of restraint not to hit the man.
I was thinking about this this morning actually.
Do you think that Obama perhaps overreached on this one. Was there some hubris, perhaps, to think that he could do what Clinton tried and failed to do?
I agree with your concise summation of the current situation, but at the risk of sounding overly pessimistic, I wonder if this country will ever accept any type of universal healthcare coverage. Maybe it's like the metric system. . .
and, yes, i don't see the Left freaking out nearly as much as the Right.
then why hasn't the plan passed yet?